Discussion Vegetarians and vaccinations? Jew,Muslim, Buddist?

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jef

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Happy Easter all. This topic is not about discussing vaccines save lives or take lives. It's about faith.

Since all vaccines contain mammal and insect content. And most are stuffed with dead babies specifically killed to make the vaccine.
Not Cannibal?
Are you cannibal? Not killing human children to consume? You think it's wrong to eat your own kind? If you take your travel shots it's time consider becoming cannibal.

Vegetarian?
When you are vegetarian and you refuse to eat eggs, bacon and fish. You should consider becoming a non veg if you take your seasonal flu shot.

Religious?
Buddhist, Hindu, Jew, Muslim or Sikh? Consuming non kosher is prohibited? Devote Buddist, Muslim or Jew who not drink animal blood or eat Pork, Monkey and Rat? Practicing hindu or Sikh not killing cow? Time to betray your god and leave your religion if you vaccinate your children.

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1= People with religion should they blindly inject vaccines in their blood, while they would never put that content in their mouth?

2= God fearing people how will you face your god after your death when you use vaccines, when you know to produce vaccine terrible sins committed according to your religion?

3= Non-cannibals Is it okay to kill human babies and their tissue to be injected in your blood, or in your mouth using oral vaccines when you never will kill human babies to be eaten?

4= Vegetarians always check the ingredients before they buy bread and saus and criticize all food products which contain animal content. Then why do they not whine about vaccines?


My opinion:

Just like your belief tells you do not take other life's just to make the pharmacy thugs rich.
I might be wrong on this but I believe we are free to be whatever we want to be. But once you choose a fait direction Keep up the faith! Or leave it and go to another direction.

If you are non-cannibal, religious or vegetarian please post your thought on what you will do. Take the shots or keep your faith and why?
 
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well one thing is right, pharmacy is a mafia. and im not jokin bout this.
 
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RujiK

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The cannibal argument is pretty bogus. That's like saying if you kiss some one, you are a cannibal since you probably ingested some of their mouth cells...

I do believe there are some legitimate concerns with vaccines but fear-mongering style arguments make your whole position look weaker.
 
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jef

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The cannibal argument is pretty bogus. That's like saying if you kiss some one, you are a cannibal since you probably ingested some of their mouth cells...
Did you read the links I posted? Just because your great leader Donald Trump said CNN, FOX and other news channels are a hoax does not mean everything they show is a lie. Republicans should wake up and look why news channels repeat vaccines contain human abortion, Legally murdered babies. Sure if you have evidence news channels and anti abortion activists are lying about human fetal tissue then bring it up.
https://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/17/health/fetal-tissue-explainer/index.html
And indeed when I kiss someone I do not eat her flesh. If I byte someone and actually swallow her tissue it's cannibalistic. But if you murder someone and take of the body parts and put it in a grinder or a blender then inject it inside me or swallow it trough drops (oral vaccine) it's 100% cannibalistic. Even if the pharmacy industry pays you 100K to kill your child and sell it to them, it still is a murder and the intention is for cannibalism. Look up the definition of cannibal. Consuming humans.

My opinion: So disgusting if you kill children after you make them. Just use condoms or burry them instead of selling them to pharmacy giants.
I am sure cannibals think differently.

I do believe there are some legitimate concerns with vaccines but fear-mongering style arguments make your whole position look weaker.
This topic is about choice of faith and use of vaccines not about if it's good or bad.
 
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Dog Slobber

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Your topics disgust me.

You being a product of religion is pretty solid evidence of how (some) religions and their respective cults go bad.
 
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jef

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Your topics disgust me.

You being a product of religion is pretty solid evidence of how (some) religions and their respective cults go bad.
That is what you say. If someone is vegetarian he does not say the cult that kills animals is bad. People who practice a certain faith will always call themselves better then others.

The governments respect all faith and (reading your comments) hate groups that's why they force pharmacy to mention ingredient's of vaccines. But do the followers of certain ideologies even bother to read the content of the vaccine, like they do in the supermarket?
 

Dog Slobber

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That is what you say. If someone is vegetarian he does not say the cult that kills animals is bad. People who practice a certain faith will always call themselves better then others.

The governments respect all faith and (reading your comments) hate groups that's why they force pharmacy to mention ingredient's of vaccines. But do the followers of certain ideologies even bother to read the content of the vaccine, like they do in the supermarket?
This from somebody who believes that using a human modelled sex toy will create half-human half-robot offspring.

Jef said:
I know some guys have a fetish of robot wife's, but think for a moment in the future you get children which are half human half robot?
 
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zendraw

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i also culd say that theres a concern with vaccines, but in the sense that you dont know how it affects your body. sure they may protect against some desise but when you take the job of the body, the body becomes weaker, and the human body im sure has weakened alot. i mean today everything is a desise according to doctors. feeling pain here feling pain there, oh ur sick of this oh ur sick of that. just a few days ago i got cold feet and the whole night i was feeling like i was being cut from the inside of my stomach, a little beneath it. and this is normal, it simply shows u u did somthing stupid and shuld be more aware of what ur doing. headaches also, ive had alot of them, but they are aways from such 'bad habbits'.
ive heard some time ago that 90% of the illneses are psychological and can be healed as such. but the pharmacy has a pill for everything. and that is more easy then to stop urself and take a look at what ur doing.

now on your points. basically they are meaningless and just not worth bothering about. except how the vaccines are made. i have no idea about that. but do some vaccine affect you being relligios or vegan or w/e? no for me relligion veganism or w/e comes from some realisation, not from the book or from some1`s speech.

so vaccines for me are a concearn only how theyr made and how they affect my body, otherwise i dont care.
 
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Smarty

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Happy Easter all. This topic is not about discussing vaccines save lives or take lives. It's about faith.
Except that it's not about faith at all, and still about the vaccinations.

Since all vaccines contain mammal and insect content.
You need to be specific about the 'content'.

Is this about the gelatin? Because if so, you should also recommend abstaining from cosmetics, vitamin pills, matches, sanding paper, and photographic print.

Is it about the use of cells as a host to grow the viruses used in vaccinations? You do realize they're from a lineage of cell strains derived from animal cells, rather than coming from animals directly? Would you prefer these viruses are grown in, and extracted from, live humans and animals instead?

Is it about the produce such as amino acids, the glycerol, the detergents, the enzymes and the blood serum? When it comes down to the organics themselves, many are not different between humans and animals. Does it then matter where it comes from? Some could even be produced synthetically, but this is far more difficult and therefore expensive. Would you prefer health care to be significantly more expensive instead?

And most are stuffed with dead babies specifically killed to make the vaccine.
One, fetuses are not babies in the same sense that saplings are not trees.

Two, fetuses have been used to develop cell strains used in some vaccines. Like animal cell strains, see above, they're several generations down from fetuses, rather than, as per your suggestion, that babies are put in the grinder.

Three, according to the articles you linked, dead fetuses have been selected for that purpose, it does not suggest they have purposely been killed for it. Side note, the vast majority of fetuses in our world die of natural causes.

Not Cannibal?
Are you cannibal? Not killing human children to consume? You think it's wrong to eat your own kind? If you take your travel shots it's time consider becoming cannibal.

Vegetarian?
When you are vegetarian and you refuse to eat eggs, bacon and fish. You should consider becoming a non veg if you take your seasonal flu shot.
They're not eating their vaccines, which are not made of animals. Or babies.

Religious?
Buddhist, Hindu, Jew, Muslim or Sikh? Consuming non kosher is prohibited? Devote Buddist, Muslim or Jew who not drink animal blood or eat Pork, Monkey and Rat? Practicing hindu or Sikh not killing cow? Time to betray your god and leave your religion if you vaccinate your children.
Leaving your religion and having your children vaccinated is actually your very first recommendation I can wholeheartedly stand behind.

Discussion:
1= People with religion should they blindly inject vaccines in their blood,
Agreed, I recommend that a trained specialist with sufficient eyesight does that.

The rest of your discussion points are just a tiresome repetition of the same arguments, so I'll skip them.

I might be wrong on this
You are.

When it comes to facts, you are so good at distortion that I just want to plug you straight into my electric guitar.
 
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Sam (Deleted User)

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Your topics disgust me.

You being a product of religion is pretty solid evidence of how (some) religions and their respective cults go bad.
Well, the Devil and what he is still doing to this planet is what really disgusts me.

Please don't be so darn rude to the OP, I'm sure he means well, even if he doesn't come across that way to some of you.

I don't really like these topics either, because they get nowhere and persuade no one.

I don't understand why so many people have disgust for faith in a deity(s). (Well, actually I do, but there's not much I can do about it).

But it is very unhealthy, because faith is something that will never go away.

One could argue that we will one day "evolve" out of it. But looking at the entire history of man kind, could you hypothetically speaking expect that to happen in our life-time? (This was more of a general statement for anyone who reads this, I don't know whether you believe in evolution or any form of religion, or both. That's not something I know, unless you say what you believe, which I haven't read yet).

I don't like a lot of things religious people do, but I also don't like a lot of things nonreligious people do. Both disgusts me. In fact, a lot of things that I've done and still do, disgusts me.

Can someone please lock this after @Dog Slobber gets the chance to respond or whatever? I want to give him that decency.

Except that it's not about faith at all, and still about the vaccinations.
lol. This rises a very good point.
 
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Dog Slobber

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Well, the Devil and what he is still doing to this planet is what really disgusts me.

Please don't be so darn rude to the OP, I'm sure he means well, even if he doesn't come across that way to some of you.

I don't really like these topics either, because they get nowhere and persuade no one.

I don't understand why so many people have disgust for faith in a deity(s). (Well, actually I do, but there's not much I can do about it).

But it is very unhealthy, because faith is something that will never go away.

One could argue that we will one day "evolve" out of it. But looking at the entire history of man kind, could you hypothetically speaking expect that to happen in our life-time? (This was more of a general statement for anyone who reads this, I don't know whether you believe in evolution or any form of religion, or both. That's not something I know, unless you say what you believe, which I haven't read yet).

I don't like a lot of things religious people do, but I also don't like a lot of things nonreligious people do. Both disgusts me. In fact, a lot of things that I've done and still do, disgusts me.

Can someone please lock this after @Dog Slobber gets the chance to respond or whatever? I want to give him that decency.



lol. This rises a very good point.
You couldn't be more wrong assuming that my disgust with this topic is because of his strong faith, or because of the subject matter.

My disgust is with his judgemental and disgusting attitude towards those who don't agree with him or make decisions that he doesn't agree with.

He frames his topic with nasty inferences, suggestions and outright name calling, and completely unprovoked as it's obvious and prevalent in the opening topic.

Some of the non-flattering, rude and disgusting things he suggests or outright refers to people who think different than him:
  • Cannibal
  • stuffed with dead babies specifically killed to make vaccines
  • you're blinded by the vaccine makers
  • killing children to consume
  • eat your own kind
  • hypocritical because vegetarians take flu shots
  • time to betray your god and religion if you vaccinate your kids
  • blindly inject vaccines
  • is it okay to kill babies
  • kill your children and sell to Pharmacy giants
  • etc
This is not how a discussion should be started. His topics and almost every paragraph is just laced with his disgusting disdain for others. And looking at his other topics and responces, this is how he consistently behaves.

This is what is disgusting, I don't know how you can't see it, or are okay with it. Such that you give him a free pass, but call me rude.
 
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Sam (Deleted User)

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Yeah, I haven't read much of his topics. So I can't say I know much of anything. I'm sorry. Whenever I glance at something and someone appears to be being rude, I often want to encourage them not to be. But it really sounds like you did that because you had a lot of reason to be upset with him, so I'll just leave this topic now before I say more stupid things that lack perspective. lol
 

Nocturne

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I don't really like these topics either, because they get nowhere and persuade no one.
Well said, and I completely agree. Closed.

@jef: I'm not going to warn you about this officially as I appreciate that people in Off Topic have a right to express themselves. However I have already closed a topic on this subject and I would appreciate it if you would refrain from publishing further topics, otherwise I will be forced to act. Healthy discussion is good, but posting stuff that is obviously inflammatory, distorted and just plain wrong is not.
 
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