GMC Jam Discussion The Classic GMC Jam 32 - 8 year anniversary

GVmG

Raechel
Seems to be the letter O, yeah.

So of my guesses, YOURSELF and COLOURED (and NO_COLOR) still stand.

But more importantly, POTATOES still stands.
 
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SamSam

Guest
If you take the 3000 most used english words and only keep the 8 characters ones wich have "o" as a second letter, you end up with the following 53 words :
boundary
collapse
colonial
complain
complete
computer
conclude
concrete
conflict
confront
Congress
consider
constant
consumer
continue
contract
contrast
convince
coverage
document
domestic
dominant
dominate
downtown
football
governor
homeless
hospital
location
moderate
moreover
mortgage
mountain
movement
normally
northern
politics
portrait
position
positive
possible
possibly
powerful
romantic
software
solution
somebody
somewhat
southern
together
tomorrow
workshop
yourself

EDIT : If you take the 58 000 words from this list and only keep the 8 characters ones wich have "o" as a second letter, you end up with the following 1226 words...
boarders
boarding
boasters
boastful
boasting
boatload
bobtails
bodiless
bodywork
bogeyman
bogeymen
boggiest
boggling
bohemian
boldface
boldness
bollards
bolsters
bombards
bombasts
bombings
bonanzas
bondings
boneless
bonemeal
bonfires
bonneted
bonniest
bookable
bookcase
bookends
bookings
booklets
bookmark
bookshop
bookwork
bookworm
boosters
boosting
bootlace
bootless
bordeaux
bordered
borderer
borehole
boringly
boroughs
borrowed
borrower
borstals
bossiest
botanist
bothered
botswana
bottling
bottomed
botulism
boudoirs
bouffant
boulders
bouncers
bouncier
bouncing
boundary
bounders
bounding
bounties
bouquets
bourbons
boutique
bowlines
bowsprit
boycotts
boyishly
boyscout
coaching
coachman
coachmen
coaction
coalesce
coalface
coarsely
coarsens
coarsest
coasters
coasting
coatings
coauthor
cobblers
cobbling
cobwebby
cochlear
cockatoo
cockcrow
cockerel
cockeyed
cockiest
cockneys
cockpits
cocksure
cocktail
coconuts
cocooned
coddling
codename
codeword
codicils
codified
codifies
codpiece
coercing
coercion
coercive
coexists
cogently
cogitate
cognates
coherent
cohesion
cohesive
coiffure
coinages
coincide
colander
coldness
coleslaw
collagen
collages
collapse
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collates
collects
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collided
collides
colliers
colliery
colloids
colluded
colonels
colonial
colonies
colonise
colonist
colossal
colossus
columbus
columnar
columned
comatose
combated
combined
combines
combusts
comeback
comedian
comedies
comedown
cometary
comforts
commando
commands
commence
commends
comments
commerce
commodes
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commonly
communal
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commuter
commutes
compacts
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competed
competes
compiled
compiler
compiles
complain
complete
complied
complies
composed
composer
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composts
compound
compress
comprise
computed
computer
computes
comrades
conceals
conceded
concedes
conceits
conceive
concepts
concerns
concerti
concerto
concerts
conclave
conclude
concocts
concords
concrete
condemns
condense
condoled
condoles
condoned
condones
conducts
conduits
confetti
confided
confides
confined
confines
confirms
conflict
confocal
conforms
confound
confront
confused
confuser
confuses
congeals
congress
conifers
conjoint
conjugal
conjunct
conjured
conjurer
conjures
conjuror
connects
connived
connoted
connotes
conquers
conquest
consents
conserve
consider
consigns
consists
consoled
consoles
consorts
conspire
constant
construe
consular
consults
consumed
consumer
consumes
contacts
contains
contempt
contends
contents
contests
contexts
continua
continue
contorts
contours
contract
contrary
contrast
contrite
contrive
controls
convects
convened
convener
convenes
convenor
convents
converge
converse
converts
conveyed
conveyor
convicts
convince
convolve
convulse
cookbook
cookware
coolants
coolness
coplanar
coppiced
coppices
copulate
copyable
copycats
copyists
coquette
cordials
cordless
cordoned
corduroy
cornered
cornices
cornmeal
coronary
coroners
coronets
corporal
corrects
corridor
corroded
corrodes
corrupts
cortical
cortisol
corvette
cosiness
cosmetic
cosmical
cossacks
cosseted
costings
costless
costlier
costumed
costumes
cottages
cottoned
couching
coughing
coulombs
councils
counsels
counters
countess
counties
counting
couplers
couplets
coupling
couriers
coursing
courtesy
courtier
courting
couscous
cousinly
covalent
covenant
coverage
covering
coverlet
covertly
coverups
coveting
covetous
cowardly
cowering
cowgirls
coworker
cowriter
cowsheds
cowslips
coxcombs
coxswain
doberman
docilely
docility
dockland
dockside
dockyard
doctoral
doctored
doctrine
document
dogeared
dogfight
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doggerel
dogmatic
dogooder
dogsbody
doldrums
dolerite
dolomite
dolorous
dolphins
domestic
domicile
dominant
dominate
domineer
dominion
donating
donation
doodling
doomsday
doorbell
doorknob
doormats
doornail
doorpost
doorstep
doorstop
doorways
dopamine
dormancy
dormouse
dorsally
dossiers
doublets
doubling
doubters
doubtful
doubting
douching
doughnut
dourness
dovecote
dovetail
dowagers
dowdiest
downbeat
downcast
downfall
downhill
downland
download
downpipe
downplay
downpour
downside
downsize
downturn
downward
downwind
foamiest
focusing
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focusses
foetuses
foggiest
foghorns
foisting
foliated
folklore
folktale
follicle
followed
follower
fomented
fondling
fondness
fontanel
foodless
foolscap
footages
football
footbath
footfall
footgear
foothill
foothold
footings
footless
footnote
footpads
footpath
footrest
footsore
footstep
footwear
footwork
foragers
foraging
forbears
forceful
forcible
forcibly
forearms
forebear
forecast
foredeck
foregone
forehand
forehead
foreland
forelegs
forelock
foremost
forename
forensic
forepaws
foreplay
foresail
foreseen
foresees
foreskin
forested
forester
forestry
foretell
foretold
forewarn
foreword
forfeits
forgings
forgiven
forgives
forgoing
formalin
formally
formated
formerly
formless
formulae
formulas
forsaken
forsakes
forswear
forswore
forsworn
fortieth
fortknox
fortress
fortunes
forwards
fostered
foulness
founders
founding
fountain
fourfold
foursome
fourteen
fourthly
foxholes
foxhunts
foxiness
foxtrots
goalless
goalpost
goatskin
gobbling
godchild
goggling
goldfish
golgotha
golliwog
gondolas
goodbyes
goodhope
goodness
goodwill
googlies
gorgeous
gorillas
gormless
goslings
gossamer
gossiped
gourmand
gourmets
governed
governor
hoarders
hoarding
hoarsely
hobbling
hobbyist
hobnails
hoisting
holdable
holdalls
holdings
holidays
holiness
holistic
hollered
hollowed
hollowly
hologram
holsters
homeland
homeless
homelier
homemade
homesick
homespun
homeward
homework
homicide
homilies
hominids
homology
homonyms
homotopy
honestly
honeybee
honeydew
honorary
honoured
hoodlums
hoodwink
hooligan
hoovered
hopefuls
hopeless
horizons
hormonal
hormones
hornbeam
hornpipe
horrible
horribly
horridly
horrific
horsebox
horsefly
horseman
horsemen
hosannas
hosepipe
hospices
hospital
hostages
hostelry
hotelier
hotheads
hothouse
hotplate
hotspots
hounding
houseful
housings
hovering
howitzer
howlings
ionising
jointing
jokingly
jolliest
jonathan
jostling
jottings
journals
journeys
jousting
jovially
joyfully
joyously
joyrider
joystick
loadable
loadings
loanable
loanword
loathing
lobbying
lobbyist
lobotomy
lobsters
localise
locality
locating
location
locative
locators
lochness
lockable
lockouts
locomote
lodestar
lodgings
loftiest
logbooks
logician
logistic
loitered
loiterer
lollipop
londoner
lonelier
lonesome
longhand
longings
longlost
lookouts
loophole
loosened
lopsided
lordship
loudness
loungers
lounging
lousiest
loveable
loveless
lovelier
lovelies
lovelorn
lovesick
lovingly
lowering
lowlands
lowliest
lowlying
loyalist
lozenges
mobilise
mobility
mobsters
moccasin
modality
modelled
modeller
moderate
moderner
modestly
modified
modifier
modifies
modishly
modulate
moistens
moisture
molarity
molasses
molecule
molehill
moleskin
molested
molester
molluscs
momentum
monalisa
monarchs
monarchy
monastic
monaural
monetary
mongoose
mongrels
monition
monitors
monkeyed
monkfish
monocled
monogamy
monogram
monolith
monomers
monomial
monopole
monopoly
monorail
monotone
monotony
monoxide
monsieur
monsoons
monsters
montages
montreal
monument
moodiest
moonbeam
moonless
moonrise
moonshot
moorhens
moorings
moorland
moraines
moralise
moralism
moralist
morality
morasses
morbidly
moreover
moribund
mornings
moroccan
morosely
morpheme
morpheus
morphine
morphism
mortally
mortgage
mortices
mortises
mortuary
mosquito
mossiest
mothball
mothered
motherly
motility
motional
motioned
motivate
motliest
motorcar
motoring
motorist
motorway
moulders
mouldier
moulding
moulting
mountain
mounties
mounting
mourners
mournful
mourning
moussaka
mouthful
mouthing
moveable
movement
movingly
nobility
nobleman
noblemen
nobodies
noctuids
nocturne
noisiest
nominate
nominees
nonevent
nonsense
noontide
normalcy
normally
normandy
norsemen
northern
northmen
nosedive
nosiness
nostrils
notables
notaries
notation
notching
notebook
notepads
nothings
noticing
notified
notifies
notional
novelist
november
nowadays
poachers
poaching
pocketed
poetical
poignant
pointers
pointing
poisoned
poisoner
polarise
polarity
polecats
polemics
polestar
poleward
policies
policing
polished
polisher
polishes
politely
politest
politics
pollster
polluted
polluter
pollutes
poloneck
polonies
polonium
poltroon
polygamy
polyglot
polygons
polygyny
polymath
polymers
pondered
pontiffs
pontoons
ponytail
poolside
poorness
popmusic
populace
populate
populism
populist
populous
porkchop
porosity
porphyry
porpoise
porridge
portable
portends
portents
porthole
portions
portrait
portrays
portugal
poseidon
positing
position
positive
positron
possible
possibly
postcard
postcode
postings
postlude
postmark
postpone
postural
postured
postures
potently
potholes
potshots
pottered
poultice
pouncing
poundage
pounding
pourable
powdered
powerful
powering
roadshow
roadside
roadster
roadways
roasting
robotics
robustly
rocketed
rocketry
rockfall
rockiest
roentgen
rollcall
rolypoly
romanced
romancer
romances
romantic
rondavel
roofings
roofless
rooftops
roomiest
roommate
roosters
roosting
rootings
rootless
rosaries
rosebuds
rosebush
rosemary
rosettes
rosewood
rostrums
rotating
rotation
rotators
rotatory
rottenly
roughage
roughens
roughest
roughing
roulette
roundels
rounders
roundest
rounding
roundish
roundups
routeing
routines
rowboats
rowdiest
rowdyism
royalist
soakings
soapiest
sobbings
sobering
sobriety
socalled
sociable
sociably
socially
societal
socrates
sodomise
sodomite
softball
softened
softener
softness
software
softwood
soggiest
soilings
sojourns
solarium
soldered
soldiers
soldiery
solecism
solemnly
solenoid
solicits
solidify
solidity
solitary
solitude
soloists
solstice
solution
solvable
solvency
solvents
sombrely
sombrero
somebody
sometime
someways
somewhat
songbird
songbook
soninlaw
sonority
sonorous
soothers
soothing
sophists
sorcerer
sordidly
soreness
sorority
sorriest
sorrowed
sortable
soulless
soundest
sounding
sourcing
sourness
southern
souvenir
soybeans
toasters
toasting
toboggan
toddlers
toddling
toenails
together
toggling
toiletry
toilette
tokenism
tolbooth
tolerant
tolerate
tollgate
tomahawk
tomorrow
tonality
tonedeaf
toneless
tonnages
toothier
topheavy
toplevel
topnotch
topology
toppings
toppling
torchlit
torments
torrents
torsions
tortoise
tortuous
tortured
torturer
tortures
totality
totalled
tottered
touchier
touching
toughens
toughest
toughies
tourists
touristy
towelled
towering
township
townsman
townsmen
towpaths
toxaemia
toxicity
toymaker
vocalise
vocalist
vocation
vocative
voicings
voidable
volatile
volcanic
volition
volleyed
voltages
vomiting
voracity
vortexes
vortices
voteless
vouchers
voyagers
voyaging
wobblier
wobbling
woefully
wolfcubs
womanise
womanish
wondered
wondrous
woodbine
woodcock
woodcuts
woodenly
woodland
woodlice
woodpile
woodshed
woodsman
woodwind
woodwork
woodworm
woollens
woollier
woollies
woollike
wordgame
wordiest
wordings
wordless
wordplay
workable
workaday
workbook
workdays
workfare
workings
workless
workload
workmate
workouts
workroom
workshop
worktops
workweek
worldwar
wormhole
wormlike
worriers
worrying
worsened
worships
worthier
worthies
worthily
wounding
yodelled
yodeller
youngest
youngish
yourself
youthful
zonation
 
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GVmG

Raechel
boundary, collapse, dominate, contrast, movement, position/location, possible, powerful, together and yourself all seem interesting.

I like the movement/position/location/possible ones (I can smell the quantum physics from a mile away) but since the theme is only one, they seem like they wouldn't really be *that* effective as themes on their own, yet movement stands out of the group as something that could have a lot of potential on its own.

together could maybe be too limiting if we don't think too much about it, but very interesting as well. my first thought was "oh so we're forced to make something multiplayer or that needs you to control two separate sides" but then again it doesn't specify how many are "together".

powerful, contrast and dominate all scream "video game" to me, especially next to each other, but I feel like they're too general for a gamejam theme, maybe contrast could work on its own better than the other two. but with generality comes both more possible interpretations and a harder time figuring them out.

boundary and collapse make me think of something a bit more story-driven, but they could work as well, I actually wouldn't mind either of the two and maybe if it ends up being a story driven game I can actually make more than 5 minutes of story with 30 seconds of gameplay this time lol

I still stand with my "yourself" guess. I feel like we could get some "deep" mechanics from it (like, "woke" deep, not logical deep, if that makes sense - Jaden Smith's twitter kind of deep).
 

M4nu

Member
Question. So can we use Photoshop to create these games without an official Photoshop license?
 

Smiechu

Member
Question. So can we use Photoshop to create these games without an official Photoshop license?
Using illegal software (for any purpose) is your own personal (un)ethical decision.

My answer is:
You "can" do everything, but it doesn't mean you "may" do everything...
 

M4nu

Member
How would we know if you did? What is the point of asking this question when we are almost certainly going to say "No" but can't stop you even if we wanted to?
It's cuz they needed 5 posts before I can open a thread as a new user, so I started with a random question before moving to game reviews ;-)
 
I'm not up to speed on emoji...i see octopus and ok, but taxi, key, book, mailbox? What are their emoji names? I could google it of course but if you don't.mind telling me that would be cool.
 
Oncoming taxi, open book.
What tipped me off was the food on a stick. I looked for the emoji just because I didn't recognise it and it was called Oden. The based on Open Hands, Octopus, and OK, something sparked in my brain and I wondered if they all started with O and hunted down an emoji list.
 

GameDevDan

Former Jam Host
Moderator
GMC Elder
Yup, well worked out! I thought using the emojis' official names (Oil Barrel, Open Mailbox, Office Building and Old Key being the ones you haven't mentioned) would make it harder, but you got it pretty quickly anyway haha.
 

curato

Member
I saw dogfight is one of those lists. That would be a cool one. I used to play the Atari version of that back in the day.
 

Toque

Member
Yup, well worked out! I thought using the emojis' official names (Oil Barrel, Open Mailbox, Office Building and Old Key being the ones you haven't mentioned) would make it harder, but you got it pretty quickly anyway haha.
You had me stumped.
 

NAL

ʕ ᓀ ᴥ ᓂ ʔ
GMC Elder
you can spell PHOENICIAN from that.

not sure what that gives me.

EDIT: the phoenician alphabet had X which is read as T. That does seem a bit of a stretch for a letter though.

EDIT2: they also had a circled X that is a variant of the T. So maybe it is T after all.

How
 

GVmG

Raechel
I haven't slept in three days, that's how.

Jokes aside, "a chin opine" doesn't really make sense even considering that to opine can mean "to state an opinion". So it's probably something else, even if my guess that it's an anagram is incorrect. The cross is probably involved with the puzzle too, because it wasn't included in the first puzzle.

As for my guess of phoenician and the letter T in particular, whether it's the right interpretation or not, it was a bit of a lucky coincidence: recently I have been looking at languages and the symbols used to write stuff, for a game I'm working on, and a simple cross like that appears in a lot of alphabets, and one of the most significative ones is the phoenician alphabet.

EDIT: Earlier guesses included words related to -PHONE or PHON-, maybe indicating the sound of the letter being related to the chin (but afaik the chin is not involved with the phonetic alphabet because it doesn't affect the sound of spoken language).
 
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SamSam

Guest
If @GVmG's guess is right :

If you take the 3000 most used english words and only keep the 8 characters ones wich have "o" as a second letter and "t" as a last letter, you end up with the following 10 words !
conflict
confront
constant
contract
contrast
document
dominant
movement
portrait
somewhat

If you take the 58 000 words from this list and only keep the 8 characters ones wich have "o" as a second letter and "t" as a last letter, you end up with the following 78 words :
boggiest
bonniest
bossiest
botanist
bouffant
bowsprit
boyscout
coarsest
cockiest
coherent
colonist
conflict
confront
conjoint
conjunct
conquest
constant
contempt
contract
contrast
covalent
covenant
coverlet
document
dogfight
dominant
doorpost
doughnut
dowdiest
downbeat
downcast
foamiest
foggiest
footrest
forecast
foremost
goalpost
hobbyist
jolliest
lobbyist
loftiest
longlost
lousiest
lowliest
loyalist
monument
moodiest
moonshot
moralist
mossiest
motliest
motorist
movement
noisiest
nonevent
novelist
poignant
politest
polyglot
populist
portrait
rockiest
roomiest
roughest
roundest
rowdiest
royalist
soapiest
soggiest
somewhat
sorriest
soundest
tolerant
torchlit
toughest
vocalist
wordiest
youngest
 

GameDevDan

Former Jam Host
Moderator
GMC Elder
GvmG's guess is correct *however* I make it over 300 remaining possibilities for the theme. (Which is why I revealed the letters in this order, to leave as much ambiguity as possible :D )
 

curato

Member
GvmG's guess is correct *however* I make it over 300 remaining possibilities for the theme. (Which is why I revealed the letters in this order, to leave as much ambiguity as possible :D )
hmmmm I think that 300 is a clue. I don't see it anywhere above.
 

NeoShade

Member
This crossword solver app returns "over 300" words that fit the clues so far. Also notice than specifically said "possibilities", not "words", which means... nothing really, other than that he's being intentionally vague.

https://www.crosswordsolver.org/solve/-o-----t

I like the idea of MONUMENT given that this Jam marks an anniversary
 
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Alice

Toolmaker of Bucuresti
Forum Staff
Moderator
My guess: the theme is CONTRAST. It's because it's broad enough to allow a variety of genres, while not being so generic that many games end up implementing it by accident (unlike e.g. CONFLICT or CONFRONT, since many games have some kind of confrontation or conflict to them). Plus, it's just the kind of thing that's quite themey. One risky thing is that it overlaps with TWO SIDES OF THE SAME COIN, which was already used a few Jams ago.

And Ralucipe specifically mentioned choosing a theme that is neither too broad nor too restrictive:
It took days of brainstorming and internal debate for us to settle on something. We're very aware of the complaints about some of the recent themes, and with our selection being the sole theme of this jam, we certainly felt an added pressure to choose something that had a good balance between broad and restrictive. As I wrote elsewhere, our #1 priority was to pick a theme that forced jammers to be creative with their game mechanics, without forcing them down a specific path.
If not CONTRAST, then my second guess would be CONSTANT, as it also has some potential (e.g. fixed points come to mind). It's pretty tricky to implement in a way so obvious that one can spot its use without it being spelled out. Still, it could be quite an interesting theme to work in the games.

Another possibility I find curious is NONEVENT, though I guess it's something that would sooner inspire a plot than a gameplay mechanic.

(or maybe CONQUEST, though personally I think it's a bit meh and somewhat easy to shove into a preexisting game mechanic, especially a combat-based one)
 

curato

Member
I like contrast as a concept. I am having trouble thinking of something I like that would be doable on a weekend.
 
I agree with Alice about Contrast. I can already imagine a tonne of similar games to last time...
I really hope it isn't something like Conflict either... which is basically a non-theme.
Personally, I hope it's Bone Fat :p
 
CONJOINT has multiple possibilities while still having a theme that is not too general I think(maybe?):

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collaborative, collective, combined,common, communal, concerted,conjunct, cooperative, joint, multiple,mutual, pooled, public, shared, united
 

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Raechel
I see some specifically Greek things, as well as a viking boat (and the colors of the Swedish flag). Will think more about this.

EDIT: I doubt it's DON'T NUT, it aint november anymore

EDIT2: considering spaces in, ZONE OUT is a possibility too, which I kinda like

EDIT3: is it a list of possible themes?

working on finding the others too there, I *think* this are right, but I am very dubious about the tent/songfest and the flag/colors. from advanced research it seems like it is not the flag of anywhere, nor a signaling flag, or anything similar. Definitely not with those specific colors. it is not a flag, confirmed on the discord.
 
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Alice

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I think it's not a SONGFEST, but rather a CONQUEST. If you look past the pretty colours, you will see the people there are warriors charging to the battle or something like that.
 
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