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  1. Alice

    Alice Toolmaker of Bucuresti Forum Staff Moderator

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    During the snowy days like these it's the time to shine!

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    THEME:
    NEWTON'S LAWS OF MOTION

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    FULL RESULTS HERE

    What, when, where?
    GMC Jam is a quarterly event held on the GameMaker Community that we organize to encourage people to experiment with GameMaker and make a game that will be interesting or entertaining within the limited timescale of 72 hours. It is entirely a community event - neither YoYo Games nor Playtech are officially involved in this competition, aside from providing forum space to carry it out.

    The Jam has three phases:
    • discussion, held in the discussion topic; started about 2 weeks before the Jam (the discussion remains open during and for some time after the Jam, too)
    • development, the core of the Jam, the 72 hours when entries are made and posted in games topic
    • decision, when community members vote for their favorite games and provide feedback to specific entries; it lasts roughly 2 weeks after the Jam, before the results are announced
    You're also cordially invited to join your fellow GMC Jam enthusiasts and regular participants on the GMC Jam Discord server.

    This GMC Jam will run for 72 hours in the following timeframe:
    February 23, 12:00 PM UTC - February 26, 12:00 PM UTC
    Friday Noon - Monday Moon

    Countdown Clock

    GMC Jam Rules
    The following rules will be used during this GMC Jam. The general Community Guidelines of behavior and conduct always apply. There have been no major changes since the GMC Jam #5, so you're free to skip over if you've participated in that Jam, but you're still advised to read it again for your own safety.

    PARTICIPATION:
    • any GMC member is welcome to participate in GMC Jam and submit their entry
    • you may use any version of GameMaker to create an entry for the GMC Jam
    • each entry must be made by a single GMC member or a team of up to 3 people; people outside GMC can be in the team, as long as at least one GMC member is in that team
    • each participant can make or contribute to as many entries as they want, but they can only claim rewards for one of them (unless the reward is given specifically for the entry)
    • each entry must have a single post in this Jam's games topic (opened once the Jam officially starts), and no two entries can share the same post
    • the Games topic post can be used to present the entry progress; it can also contain a devlog
    • by the time the Jam ends, each Games topic post must contain a valid link to the entry's downloadable file

    ENTRY:
    • the entry must be an original creation made in GameMaker specifically for the Jam, within the Jam timeframe
    • this goes without saying, but no game engines besides GameMaker can be used for creating an entry for this Jam
    • the entry might use assets (graphics, audio, scripts, extensions, Marketplace resources etc.) created before the Jam, whether by team members or someone else; however, the credits should make clear where the assets come from and which were made before the Jam
    • the creators of the entry must have rights to all of the assets; unlicensed use of resources is not allowed
    • the entry must be available as a Windows executable file, exported as a stand-alone file or as a ZIP; installers are not allowed
    • the entry might be exported to other platforms as well (such as HTML5 or Android), but the Windows executable must be available

    THEME:
    • the Jam has a theme picked by the previous winner - a general idea around which the entry can be built
    • the theme is announced when the Jam officially starts, but letters of it are gradually revealed over the course of this discussion - members are allowed to guess what the theme might be
    • while incorporating the theme in the entry is not mandatory, participants are strongly encouraged to do so
    • the entry that uses the theme in the most interesting way can win best use of theme award

    BEST-OF AWARDS:
    • aside from the Jam-specific theme, the games can be rated on the concept, the presentation and the story
    • the concept is related to the core gameplay mechanics idea - whether the game rules themselves are creative and entertaing or not
    • the presentation is related to the overall polish - whether the entry provides the right experience through audiovisuals, and whether it's not disrupted by bugs and errors
    • the story is related to the events or motivation present throughout the entry; it can be told through dialogue and narrative, as well as implied through game design
    • the entries excelling at these categories can win best concept, best presentation and best story awards
    • furthermore, aside from entries themselves, their devlogs can be rated; the entry with the most interesting devlog can win best devlog awards

    VOTING:
    • after the Jam ends, all entries are gathered in a single ZIP with all entries for everyone to download
    • once the ZIP is available, the voting begins, and it lasts approximately 2 weeks; a longer voting period may be chosen when more than 70-80 entries are submitted
    • the voting period may be extended upon request by at most one additional week; however, not every such request must be granted, and one should show a reasonable progress with reviewing/playing the Jam entries
    • the voting is carried out in the Jam's voting topic, where each voter makes a single post for their scores and reviews
    • any GMC member may vote, whether they participated or not, but participants cannot rank or award their own entries
    • each voter must rank and post a brief comment on at least top 3 games; also, they are free to and can rank more games, in fact, as many as they want or even all
    • each voter can vote for best use of theme, concept, presentation, story and devlog
    • each voter can vote for best reviewer, but in this case their opinion is entirely non-binding - the best reviewer is eventually chosen by the Jam host after the voting ends
    • if some voters or participants are found to be cheating, their entries may be disqualified and they might be excluded from future community events
    • shortly after the voting period closes (preferably within 24 hours), the votes are summed up, and the final results announced; after that, all prizes should be distributed where applicable

    PRIZES:
    • top 3 entries, as well as best-of award winners, get special banners and are featured in the Hall of Fame
    • creator of the highest ranking themed entry gets the right to choose the next Jam's theme
    • aside from regular GMC Jam prizes, other GMC members can contribute the community prizes by messaging the Jam host
    • do not post community prize offers in this topic as we might miss them amidst the discussion; you're free to do so, but also send a message to the Jam host so that the prizes can be added to the pool listing below
    • the community prizes can be given to any range of places, best-of winners, reviewers, personal favourites etc.
    • the community prizes can be nearly anything - custom graphics, soundtracks, gameplay videos, software keys etc.; as long as they are not monetary prizes and they don't break community rules
    • it is community prize contributor's responsibility to give the prize; they should make sure they can deliver their promise
    If you have any suggestions or comments to make about the way GMC Jam works, please consider posting them in the GMC Jam Suggestions topic. It is from your feedback that we might make this community event even better and more fun to participate in!

    Community Prizes
    Want to add your community prize? Send a message to the Jam host the details!
    (note that you will need to handle prizes distribution on your own after the Jam, please don't pass anything through me)

    • @CloakedGames will feature the author of the entry with best use of theme in his game (as an easter egg)
    • @dadio offers:
      • Commercial use license for all his 233 fonts on dafont.com for everyone who participates in this Jam
      • Early access to "Cowgirls Vs Cthonimon" game to top 3 winners (once it actually comes out)
    • @JacobV offers a copy of Hollow Knight to the 1st place entry
    • @sylvain_l offers a TIS-100 Steam key for personal favourite entry

    Spread the word!
    If you would like to promote the Jam, please paste the following code in your signature. Also, please remember that your signature is effective only when you are posting around forums. You might want to go ahead and give feedback in Made with GameMaker and Work in Progress forums, or maybe participate in Programming and Community Tech Support discussions.

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    The wonderful Jam banner has been made by @dadio
    The Discord server has been setup by @Ragarnak
    The countdown clock is the courtesy of @Shadow Link

    Let's get the discussion started!
     
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  2. matharoo

    matharoo Udemy Instructor

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    first. plx subscribe I make cover music
     
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  3. Barvix

    Barvix Member

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    Team Barvix will crush everyone's game

    And by crush I mean get last place first
     
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  4. Micah_DS

    Micah_DS Member

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    Hah! Challenge accepted.

    BTW, the GMC Jam banner looks really nice.
     
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  5. True Valhalla

    True Valhalla Full-Time Developer GMC Elder

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    Good luck everyone, have fun!
     
  6. HayManMarc

    HayManMarc Member

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    Well... This jam falls on my wedding anniversary and inventory at work. Looks like I'll be making Pong.
     
  7. Lolligirl

    Lolligirl Europe Travel Girl

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    Excited to see some lovely games~~
     
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  8. Micah_DS

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    @HayManMarc Pong :D

    (It's a "ping pong" joke. Do you see it? It see you do? .. and there's another different ping pong joke. ... sorry, I'm done now)
     
  9. Guest User

    Guest User Guest

    I hope I can do something this time...
     
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  10. Cat

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    Hype hype! I'm 100% in for this one!
     
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  11. Bentley

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    I'm making a game. I don't care how crappy it is, it's getting finished.
     
  12. trg601

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    Exactly!
    You miss 100% of the games you don't make.
    (I think I quoted that right?)
     
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  13. sylvain_l

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    Code:
    -E---------W-----------
    DEFIANT ANSWER TO SHALL
    VEHICLE FLOW CONTROLLER
    DEVELOPERS WORK ON THEM
    FEELING BETWEEN FRIENDS
    MEXICAN STEW OR ITS POT
    DECORATIVE WALL COATING
     
  14. lolslayer

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    That's a long ass theme...
     
  15. Siolfor the Jackal

    Siolfor the Jackal Member

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    Makes me nervous, a longer theme makes me think it will be more restrictive...
     
  16. Micah_DS

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    Code:
    -E---------W-----------
    DEATH IS HOW YOU DAZZLE
    I'm ready to make a stuntman sim.
     
  17. matharoo

    matharoo Udemy Instructor

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    Code:
    -E---------W-----------
    EEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
     
  18. HayManMarc

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    Code:
    -E---------W-----------
    MEDIOCRITY WINS THE DAY
    
    I'm sure to win THIS time.
     
  19. sylvain_l

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    Code:
    REMAKE THE WAITING LIST
    TEN WOLFES WANT TO PLAY
    KEN DANCES WITH BARBIE!
     
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  20. matharoo

    matharoo Udemy Instructor

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    Oh, I sure would love to make a game about ten Nocturnes.
     
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  21. Misu

    Misu The forum's immigrant

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    I might not be able to participate in this jam due to lack of internet accessibility. Last jam i couldnt for the same reason and now the problem still persist. All i know is i will 100% participate for this summer instead since I will get internet by that time. Good luck everyone.
     
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  22. lolslayer

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    Really hoping that next summer's jam will be in the summer vacation, last jam and this one start in the first week of my school block. I might participate this block but I'm not sure because of this.
     
  23. dadio

    dadio Potato Overlord Forum Staff Moderator

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    LEMON YELLOW LOBSTERMEN

    Yes.
    Yes I think we need more letter reveals...
     
  24. Alice

    Alice Toolmaker of Bucuresti Forum Staff Moderator

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    Ask and ye shall receive:
    -E---------W--O-------N
     
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  25. TheSnidr

    TheSnidr Heavy metal viking dentist GMC Elder

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    I like how this one's still relevant after two more letters have been revealed xD
     
  26. sylvain_l

    sylvain_l Member

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    seems like dadio nailed it at his first guess :rolleyes:


    Code:
    -E---------W--O-------N
    LET'S FOLLOW YOUR LEMON
    LET'S FOLLOW YOUR DEMON
    FEEL LIKE AWESOME HAVEN
    MEET THE NEWSBOY AT TEN
     
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  27. lolslayer

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    This theme is gonna make or break the jam
     
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  28. Ghost in the IDE

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    Just what I was thinking. :D
     
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  29. Cloaked Games

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    I am open to do music for the jam for someone's team. I only have a day or so this time around, but that should be enough time to do 1 or 2 songs if I focus. I can probably produce synth stuff (for like, a space game or something), faster than anything else, but I work with real instruments too. If you're interested, hit me up. (Also, my Soundcloud is in my signature). Please note that I can't do sounds, though if you really want me to try I will.
     
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  30. 0.Bytes

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    Not sure if I will be able to join the jam, but I am curious about the theme, I have no idea what it is =p
     
  31. sylvain_l

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    Code:
    GENERAL VIEWS OF ACTION
    WELCOME TO WHOOPER SWAN
    MEET ME AT WACO STATION
    REDDISH BROWN OLD BACON
    FEED ONLY OWL OR KITTEN
    BE TOO IN AWE OF AXEMEN
    TEN THINGS WIDOWS BEGIN
    
     
  32. Bentley

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    Haha, I love "BE TOO IN AW OF AXEMEN".
     
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  33. Alice

    Alice Toolmaker of Bucuresti Forum Staff Moderator

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    Yet another letter reveal~!

    -E-------L-W--O-------N

    Also, the first community prize has been added to the pool.
     
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  34. sylvain_l

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    who's the winner:
    dadio's
    LEMON YELLOW LOBSTERMEN

    or my:
    LET'S FOLLOW YOUR LEMON
    (LET'S FOLLOW YOUR DEMON)

    .
    .
    .
    none

    because it's one of the following:
    Code:
    LET'S KILL WINONA STERN
    DEMONIACAL WAGON OF TIN
    REASON ALLOWS OBJECTION
     
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  35. The M

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    -E-------L-W--O-------N
    Search below your titan
    Deaths allow you to win
    Fear da clown or resign

    Yeah, I'm in!
     
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  36. TheSnidr

    TheSnidr Heavy metal viking dentist GMC Elder

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    Huh, that middle one seems plausible
     
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  37. Alice

    Alice Toolmaker of Bucuresti Forum Staff Moderator

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    Keep guessing, because you won't be getting any more letter reveals this Jam. *whistling*
     
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  38. sylvain_l

    sylvain_l Member

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    that one sounds really good
     
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  39. Phynam

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    The theme must be about pizza, spacewide explosions, or the like.

    I like the "lemon" guess above
     
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  40. dadio

    dadio Potato Overlord Forum Staff Moderator

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    No more letter reveals...
    but that doesn't mean SPACES can't be revealed!
    Giev 1 space naow plz...
     
  41. HayManMarc

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    We don't need spaces, @dadio, the theme is revealed! It's ELWON!! All those extra spaces are there just to throw us off.

    ELWON
     
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  42. Misty

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    participating in this lucky jam. it is lucky because my birthday is near it.
     
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  43. TehPilot

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    There's a slim chance I can make this jam. Got a lot of work to do before the weekend kicks off; if it's all finished, I'm in. If not, other stuff regrettably takes precedence.

    So we'll see! I've been excited for another GMC Jam.
     
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    Code:
    -E-------L-W--O-------N
    
    TEARS OF LOW ROVING SUN
    TELL THE LAW TO HANG ON
    REVERT ALL WINOS TO GIN
    ZESTY FELLOWS OF COMMON
    DESTROY SLOW FOOL TRAIN
    HER JACKEL WHOOPS A MAN
    ME DADIO LAWS OF DUBLIN
    RECOIL BELOW TOXIC MOON
    MEDIEVAL LEWD OLD WOMEN
    DEVILS ALLOW YOU TO SIN
    
     
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    I'm convinced the "Allow you to win" is the end part. It makes a lot of sense, and has potential.

    Code:
    - E - - - - - - - L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    - E - - - - _ A L L O W _ Y O U _ T O _ W I N
    Which means for that, we're really just guessing "- E - - - -". Which leaves us with 8274 possibilities, including the word LEAVES. I think the earlier mention of DEATHS, is quite a good guess. Also maybe LEVELS, JEWELS, JELLOS, JELLYS (@JellyJake112), DEVILS, DEMONS, DEMISE, or LEVERS. Plus over 8 thousand others. Honestly, DEATHS is still the best.
     
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  46. Alice

    Alice Toolmaker of Bucuresti Forum Staff Moderator

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    Just going to drop this here...

    -E----'--L-W--O-------N
     
  47. Cloaked Games

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    Crap.

    EDIT:

    Okay. After some consideration, not all is lost. We actually can learn a lot from that singular apostrophe.

    I am unable to find (or remember) any word with an apostrophe which has more than two letter after the apostrophe. If it's possessive, then it's just " 's ". Most others are 're, 'll, 'd, 't, or 've. Since, there is the letter "L", two spaces after the apostrophe, and we know there can't be more than two letters after the apostrophe, we can conclude (almost certainly), that there is a space right before the "L" in the hints, and the letter after the apostrophe must be a single letter.

    Important to note, @HayManMarc reminded me that possessive plural ends with s', which works a bit different. Then we end with an S before the apostrophe and a space right after that.

    Code:
    - E - - - - ' ? _ L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    The question mark is then probably possessive S, or contraction T, D, or S. Or the word with the apostrophe is I'M, in which case the ? is M.

    So we have:

    Code:
    - E - - - - ' S _ L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    - E - - - - ' T _ L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    - E - - - - ' D _ L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    - E - - - I ' M _ L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    
    And possessive plural:
    - E - - - S ' _ - L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    Now I'm going to try to find themes that fit this.
     
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    Hm... that's true. I'll account for that as another possibility.

    I'm busy listing every single contraction that fits. Because it's close to the beginning, there's actually not very many that are short enough. I'm actually fairly sure it must be used possessively and that would be a lot harder to actually guess. Probably won't end up being a contraction, but it gives us something to work with.

    EDIT: Here's new update:

    So if we take that further, and just plug in contractions so we can think on that better, here we go:

    Also, we can add a space before each of the contractions, which really limits the words we can stick in the front.

    Code:
    - E _ C A N ' T _ L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    - E _ W O N ' T _ L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    - E _ I S N ' T _ L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    - E _ D O N ' T _ L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    - E _ D O N ' T _ L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    
    Shouldn't, Couldn't, Wouldn't, Aren't, Doesn't, Wasn't, Weren't, Hasn't, Haven't, Hadn't, Mustn't, Didn't, Mightn't, and Needn't are all too long.

    Code:
    - E - - _ I ' D _ L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    - E _ Y O U ' D _ L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    - E - _ H E ' D _ L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    - E _ S H E ' D _ L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    - E - _ W E ' D _ L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    - E - _ I T ' D _ L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    - E _ W H O ' D _ L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    
    They'd, There's, What'd, and That'd are all too long.

    Code:
    - E - _ H E ' S _ L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    - E _ S H E ' S _ L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    - E - _ I T ' S _ L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    - E _ W H O ' S _ L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    - E _ O N E ' S _ L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    - E _ L E T ' S _ L - W - - O - - - - - - - N
    
    What's, That's, There's, and Here's are all too long.

    With this we can see that if it is a contraction (with the exception of I'M), the word at the beginning must be a two or three letter word with E as the second letter.

    Code:
    - E _
    or - E -
    Remotely possible words in this case: TEA, BED, BET, FEW, GEM, GET, HER, HEX, KEY, LED, MET, PEA, PEE, SEA, SEE, WET.
    Two letter: BE, HE, ME, WE (Personally I think one of these is far more likely).

    This is closer. Combinations needed next.

    As for actual words in here: we know that the L is connected to the W, there is not space in-between. L can't be a letter on its own.

    That leaves us with surprisingly few words.

    LAW, LOW, LOWS, LAWN, LAWS, LAWBOOK, LAWBOOKS, LAWNMOWER, LAWNMOWERS (this is getting ridiculous)

    Actually... getting those to fit above is fairly tricky.... Maybe "HE ISN'T LAW ...."
     
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    Code:
    BEEBOP'S LAWNMOWERS
     
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