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Paolo Mazzon
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@ParodyKnaveBob hmm, strange. Anyway, good to know. Thanks!
Been asking for a fix for this for 1 month and half... so dont get your hopes upIs it possible to second on here something that someone has already said, for emphasis?
It's just that, I relied on google a lot to search the old forums. But now they're not getting picked up by google, I'm having a difficult time finding the correct answers to my questions. There are other places out there that have the answers do show on google, however, it's nowhere near as comprehensive.
And searching on either forums...it just doesn't give the same results.
If those one or two users buy all the PlayTech stock just to make that one specific change you'll have egg on your face!Can we stop with the crap about passwords? This has been explained and won't change. Playtech made it a condition for having the forums open. You want less restrictions? Then fine, but you won't have a GMC then... It's not going to change no matter how much one or two users dislike it.
It wants the full twitter url /usernameJust found another issue too.
When you attempt to enter your Twitter account in the appropriate field in Contact Details is errors out with;
Tried the Twitter name with and without the @ symbol. My Twitter name is text only with no symbols or spaces.
They aren't? No idea why you say that... the forum and YYG accounts are completely 100% separate entities...I do not want my forum and software account passwords linked.
So, you aren't using a unique password for every site? That's, umm... brave? Seriously, security 101, use a unique password for every site...I do not want to use this forum if I must remember this different, unique, cumbersome and annoying password. I can only hope my browser caught it, if not it will be my only post.
I'll leave this here: https://www.troyhunt.com/only-secure-password-is-one-you-cant/ (note that the writer is Microsoft Regional Director for Australia and the Microsoft "Most Valuable Professional" for Developer Security... He also created the site Have I Been Pwned and is the author of many top-rated courses on web security)I do not want to use a long giant cumbersome password.
I do not want to go install/buy/download or use 3rd party password management software.
Thank you.Now, I shall indeed pass these complaints along (and have already), but I really do feel that this is a storm in a teacup....
I do not want to have to install/buy/download or use 3rd party tool to program gamesone more for the atrocious password requirements. please forward our collective complaint to Playfirst at the next possible meting.
I do not want my forum and software account passwords linked.
I do not want to use a long giant cumbersome password.
I do not want to go install/buy/download or use 3rd party password management software.
I do not want to use this forum if I must remember this different, unique, cumbersome and annoying password. I can only hope my browser caught it, if not it will be my only post.
Please inform Playfirst they will lose money if they maintain this policy. Your hands are tied, our wallets are not.
I am not really interested in laying out my password management practices.I do not want to have to install/buy/download or use 3rd party tool to program games
Come on man. I have not had to enter my password on here ever aside the very first login...
And why not get a password generator/management tool? Get KeePass, it's free. shift+ctrl+A to log on if chrome forgot your password, like if you had to clean your browser data... it's pretty easy... Welcome to 2016 .
I concede and admit my shortsightedness and ignorance in the matter of university/college/school use, if they dont allow you plugging in your usb thumb drive, a password management app is somewhat useless.I am not really interested in laying out my password management practices.
I will say that if you merely consider Gamemaker used in any kind of academic setting, you will have people changing computers, classrooms and buildings several times each day. Should a student want to ask a question about development on these forums while on a campus or school computer lab, such a software would need to be installed on that computer owned by a university or school that was the same as whatever that person used on their home software. Password management software is convenient but not always practical in this and many other environments.
Again, thank you.
It's unfortunate the other forum password topics were shutdown with increasingly popular "Not gonna happen" closing post, preventing valid justification, reason and discussion.@Storyteller - Thank you for expanding on your reasons and I will most definitely be pointing the appropriate people towards your post, as it does indeed provide a very valid reason for why you think the password rules are restrictive.
Because I asked you about it and you responded by ignoring that concern and telling me to "stop with the password crap" rather than actually addressing my concern on the issue perhaps?They aren't? No idea why you say that... the forum and YYG accounts are completely 100% separate entities...
Umm... I haven't been defensive or evasive? I've clearly stated from day one that it's not going to change as it's something that Playtech has made a requirement for re-opening the forums. That's pretty much it... I can't say any more as there is nothing more to say. I can't handle it any differently as there isn't really any way to say "no" other than "no"... I haven't been ignoring your concerns either, I've simply been saying that regardless of your reasons, this is a change that won't be getting made, and it's not because I don't want to (I don't actually care either way personally), it's because I literally can't do anything.The reason the password concerns are being so dragged out isn't because of us, it's because of you and the way you and the rest of the YYG staff are handling this situation. Instead of just giving us a clear cut answers and trying to ease our concerns in this regard you've just been ignoring our concerns and telling us to shut up. Being defensive and evasive on the subject doesn't exactly put our minds at ease.
It's incredibly frustrating on this side when in response to a legitimate concern about forum security, we get directed to articles by Troy Hunt, one of Microsoft's "security elite". This becomes a much weirder response when you take into account that this password is for a free forum that holds no relevant, life altering information about it's users. There is nothing to steal, there is nothing to take, there is nothing here. Even Microsoft, the company that employs the expert you linked to, doesn't enforce this kind of password restrictions on any of it's services (that I know of) which hold much higher valued assets. Linking us to articles by Troy Hunt is a weird and evasive response.It's incredibly frustrating to be in this position...
It was a specific response to a couple of very specific comments, and within the context of the quoted conversation it was not weird nor evasive. And, let's be honest, if a leading expert in security suggests that using a complex password and a password manager is the best way to do things, then I'd take his advice. You are reading more into it and trying to make an issue from something that isn't... Also note that MS don't do this, but they do have two step auth and other security measures, and two step auth was another thing that Playtech wanted to enforce OBLIGATORY for all members. We talked them out of that and the current security settings were the compromise (and it's been made clear that no further compromises will be made, as I think I've said already). If you want two step auth and looser password restrictions then I can put that to them too, but I'd need to see a hell of a lot more people requesting it.is a really, really weird response
The answer is no.Out of curiosity, were the negotiations with Playtech over the forum securities issues in at all connected with the prolonged downtime we experienced before the new forums were implemented?
I don't see what's so annoying about longer passwords. Most modern browsers even lets you save typed-in passwords so you don't need to type them again, so you can't blame it on broken fingers or laziness.
I will say that if you merely consider Gamemaker used in any kind of academic setting, you will have people changing computers, classrooms and buildings several times each day. Should a student want to ask a question about development on these forums while on a campus or school computer lab, such a software would need to be installed on that computer owned by a university or school that was the same as whatever that person used on their home software. Password management software is convenient but not always practical in this and many other environments.
Interesting figure... I actually used a 15-character password in the school I mentioned. Is that the limit where passwords start getting considered as long, perhaps? (The actual limitations actually were 8+ characters, having to have members from each of a bunch of sets of symbols in it, and not being able to have your username be a substring of the password)I don't see why this is such an issue. If you type in your password manually a few times and you use it regularly you will remember it (granted you didn't set it to some random gibberish). I have friends who use 15+ character passwords and have no trouble remembering them.
EDIT: And if anybody is too lazy to type in a password once when they enter a classroom, then that's their problem and not Nocturne's, or Playtech's or anybody else's.
Firstly, I would want to point out by saying that Nocturne is a brilliant administrator. I have been in a few different forums and groups over the years, as both a member and in times a moderator and I'll take this time to point out that Nocturne is by far one of the best administrators I have came across over those years. He is well liked by the community and by his moderating team while maintaining a fairness to the forums and swift problem resolvement as well as supporting community growth and events. I respect Nocturne a great deal, both as an admin and as a developer and I can only assume he knows that. However, while Nocturne has since been immortalized as a deity in the chapel of the GMC, he too was once human and more so than that he is Scottish. It is only natural for me, as a human and a Northerner, to disagree with him at times and while this is one of those times, it in no way effects the respect I hold for him. I am not attacking Nocturne as a person, I am simply disagreeing with the way he is handling this specific situation.I don't see why this is such an issue. If you type in your password manually a few times and you use it regularly you will remember it (granted you didn't set it to some random gibberish). I have friends who use 15+ character passwords and have no trouble remembering them.
EDIT: And if anybody is too lazy to type in a password once when they enter a classroom, then that's their problem and not Nocturne's, or Playtech's or anybody else's.
Just had to give this some proper attention.Students are notoriously lazy so their fingers could probably use the extra exercise to try and keep up with their wrists anyway.
There's a cracking episode I guess you watched since he refers to it.Great vid Icuurd! watched a bunch of those videos and I think I now have a much better idea of how password encoding/decoding works!
I wonder if the password limits are more for detouring hackers than for user safety? I know this subject has been pretty much closed, but I sort of wish we could at least know the reason for the harsh restrictions. I really shouldn't re-ignite this argument though.
Thanks, but do you know how to change your membership status-thing? Like how yours is set to 'Precocious Intellectual'?@Treecase86: You can't change the username and age yourself. Send @Nocturne a message to get them changed. (If you can't figure out how to do that, go to his profile >> Information tab >> Interact section >> Start a Conversation; and wait for 8 years...) Also, you can change your location (address) yourself by going to the Personal Details section.
Also, @Nocturne, the colour combination of the topic prefixes is not consistent in different locations. For instance, the Distribution TP (in the Game Design forum) becomes green text on pink background (which is different from the planned blue-on-pink combination) while editing a post and kills readability; apart from looking odd and out of the place, so you might want to fix that. (unless it takes you ages again to figure out how to do that... ^^")
Any news on this?Been asking for a fix for this for 1 month and half... so dont get your hopes up
Could somebody be liking, unliking, liking, unliking...... the same post, either deliberately or possibly due to forum lag.@Aura no i dont think iv followed any, its definitely a bug as when i look at my alerts it says 8 likes and 1 mention all the for the same post at the same time all from one person, although it only added one like to my profile, so id say a bug for sure, only seen it happen twice up to now though.
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