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Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Samuel Venable, May 14, 2019 at 10:14 PM.

  1. Samuel Venable

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    This is meant to be a safe place for children do not say anything graphic and do take this seriously.

    I need to quit p*rn before I get married. I feel so dirty knowing I do it, and to be honest I find it a very unhealthy practice because every time you watch the same thing you eventually get bored of it. Its basically training your brain to be bored of your spouse.

    I thought this topic would be better recieved by the admins knowing I'm not in support for it and am legitimately looking for help to get free from it.

    Why the GameMaker Community? Its just something to talk about, and its in the general chat. I see no problem with it.

    But if you find the topic offensive and it gets closed its not a huge deal to me either way. I find this to be more appropriate than my troll topic "does sex really sell?" so if you're going to lock this and not that other topic, it would really be confusing to me. But it's no biggie.

    But yeah I need help, and don't know if anyone on here has any life experience on how to quit the habit and become celebate until marriage, but that would be something i'd like to hear.

    Also I don't care if you think its fine to have sex outside of marriage or whether you are gay/straight, that is not what this topic is about.

    Whether you believe sex outside of marriage to be ok, and whether you are gay/straight, if you found something that worked for you up until finding a relationship of any kind, I can just as easily learn from your life experiences and just apply it differently so that i wait until i marry someone, and yea I'm straight but if you are gay or whatever and have advice on this your opinions are valued no less.

    I'll just apply these things to my life however I can with my differences.

    If your going to post anything even slightly questionable I ask you refrain from doing so because it will get this locked guaranteed.

    Yes I know this is extremely random.
     
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  2. The Sorcerer

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    I wouldn't worry too much. A wedding ring tends to cut off the circulation to a woman's libido.

    As Admiral Ackbar says.

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  3. Rob

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    You just have to build your mental fortitude. It's a fraction of a second that decides whether you're gonna click where you don't want to click. Be aware of yourself and just keep making an effort to not do it. If you find you've managed to get onto one of those sites then close it down.

    It's really down to you.
     
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  4. Samuel Venable

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    Yeah I really wish it was that easy. I've been battling this for a long time. It's like being addicted to drugs, once you know the feeling and hit the urge, I often find myself in a depressed state until I do it. I also don't like being dependent on it and wish I could be happier without it. But you are right in that all it takes is a simple attitude change, it just isn't easy.
     
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  5. TsukaYuriko

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    Ssshh! That's a secret!

    @Samuel Venable:
    This is an... interesting topic for multiple reasons. Yeah, it's kinda random for it to be posted on the GMC, but I'd assume it's the kind of topic a lot of people would like to talk about, but don't do so in fear of being shunned or made fun of (and neither should happen here, as the GMC is inclusive) and would feel most (if at all) comfortable talking about it to people they're more familiar with rather than some random self-help group forum on a throwaway account. So it does make sense for it to be on the GMC after all, even if it feels out of place. Props to you for owning up to it, wanting to make a change and talking about it in a mature way. (I swear, no pun intended.)

    If the discussion is held at an equal level, doesn't devolve into half-assed joke suggestions and is kept free of vulgarity and graphic content, I see no problem with this topic.


    Now... I logically should be the absolute least qualified person to give advice about the topic itself, as I have no interest in the subject matter and therefore have no direct experience with it or quitting it. This extends to the point where I couldn't convince myself to be slightly interested in it for the sake of someone else even if I wanted to, much to the dismay of my partners who may be more into it and were looking to get it involved in the relationship in one way or another. We sort of seem like polar opposites in this regard, so I hope it might be helpful anyway to hear from the "other side" - maybe there is some truth for you in my reasoning that would help you overcome it?

    For starters... I fail to see any appeal in it. Whatever I'd watch, it would be both conceptually and physically detached from myself. It feels kind of like a mental barrier. Maybe I'm just too apathetic and lacking empathy to be able to get into anything like that. If it came down to it, I trust my imagination to be able to come up with much more suitable things than whatever mass-produced material could deliver. Either way, I'd much rather spend time with those I love (not necessarily limited to partners) and engage in activities we enjoy (not necessarily in any sexual way - again, often much to their dismay... and I'm not even married) - that's what creates wonderful memories, which is one of the most important things in relationships to me.

    It differs a bit depending on your situation, but I guess that's what my advice would come down to: Find something you enjoy doing, either with a partner, alone or with friends, that isn't related to what you're trying to avoid and try to do that instead if you feel the urge. If you can substitute only the source of your gratification and fulfillment, not the feeling you're looking for, it will hopefully be enjoyable and distracting enough that you won't be left in a depressed state when you try to hold yourself back.


    If you (or anyone else!) spot anything objectionable, please report it and it will be removed to keep the topic clean. Closing should always be a last resort if something is irrecoverably derailed or changed in nature, and I'd rather not see a fully serious topic end up like that.
     
  6. BattleRifle BR55

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    While I wouldn't say I was addicted to watching it, I did struggle with the physical side of it. It's even worse that, for whatever reason, I lost some of my sensitivity back in '12 during a break with my then-girlfriend and it never came back. This past November, I took advantage of the No-Fap challenge to not only try and rid myself of it all, but to also see if abstaining would help with sensitivity recovery. Week 1 was a little stressful by the third day. Week 2 is where all things started to break loose and I couldn't stop thinking about sex. Week 3, I was at the point where I wanted to call up that old ex because, for whatever reason, I was dying to sleep with her, and her alone. During weeks 2 and 3, I was occasionally checking out sites, but I never gave in to temptation, even for a moment; it was kind of like walking by McDonald's during a diet just to breathe in the goodness. Once week 4 hit, things started to calm down, and by the time November was over, I realized that I could keep on going, and wanted to try the 90 day challenge. (Un)fortunately, a week later I got involved with a coworker, and on day 43, we went on an official date after an entire week of nothing but making out and teases. The morning of day 44, my streak ended. I'm still with her, and while abstaining didn't help one bit with the sensitivity (which annoyed me as people under similar circumstances regained their sensitivity in half the time I spent abstaining), I noticed that I no longer had any desire for either P or M when I wasn't with her, a trait I still have 6 months after I first started this. It's actually quite shocking considering I've been watching the stuff since I was 6 and am now nearly 30.

    Starting is always the hardest part, but all I can say as someone who successfully dealt with it, just give it a shot and simply stop doing it. It'll suck, and you'll be freaking out for the first couple weeks, but it'll be worth it in the long run once you realize you no longer need it. I'm sorry I don't have anything bigger to add, but I do find such challenges easier to deal with when you set a time goal where you can stop doing the challenge and go back to your normal ways. I couldn't wait for December 1st to give in, but once that day hit, I had been on such a nice streak with hardly any desire left in me that I further pushed it until I got myself a woman and had only her for that action. I didn't know I'd be breaking my streak halfway to day 90, and I don't know if you're actually engaged or just want to give it up until you have a wife, but sometimes mini challenges can help along the way. I did the same thing with fast food when I put on a lot of weight after a terrible breakup with the same girl from '12. I promised myself that if I dropped 100 pounds, I could finally go back to McDonald's. The benefit is that once I surpassed my goal and was actually fit and healthy, I no longer craved such greasy food because I was in a different mindset and lifestyle. That was the same for pr0n and such. Definitely try just stopping, cold turkey. Like I said, it'll suck, but the beginning is always the hardest part of any change.
     
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  7. Samuel Venable

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    I know this post is very few words in reply to much bigger messages, that is mainly because I'm going to bed soon but yes I take all of this to heart and two things I especially appreciate:

    1) @TsukaYuriko Thank you for the support on the subject matter, regardless of how much you might find me a bit unrelatable. Again I'm getting kinda tired so I'm still kinda confused about what half of what your post was trying to convey, I'm going to revisit after some sleep. lol

    2) @BattleRifle BR55 thank you for the advice, major respect to you for going so long without it. This is something that people spend their entire life time trying to stop doing and never stop doing it, so anyway I'm glad setting goals really helped you and I think that the milestone of seeing how long you can go without it is a great way to go about it. I've been recommended that before in the past and if i just get past the hump of making that intial decision to stop for several weeks if at all like your case it would be super cool if I ended up letting the initial weeks take care of the rest.
     
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  8. Morendral

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    I understand wanting to cut back for the kind of reasons that BR55 suggested, but i don't understand wanting to go completely celibate. This is especially so in your case where it's something that clearly is something that you need. Masturbation is perfectly natural and healthy, and pretty much all mammals do it for a variety of reasons.

    Doing so in excess is an issue and that frequency is determined by the individual. I would recommend talking to a professional of some sort to assist you because it sounds like there is an underlying issue.
     
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  9. Samuel Venable

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    I understand there to be conflicting views on this, so for the sake of being respectful I'm just going to say there is no right or wrong answer. It's up to every individual to decide what they find to be a good practice.

    That being said, all of the girls I am friends with in real life, and most of the guys, are virgins who never got sexually turned on before, and they live some of the most happy and fullfilled lives I have ever seen. I used to have similar joy and fullfillment in my heart when I quit porn for one month when I was 14, but the following month I went back to it and my depression and anger issues came back.

    A lot of people might argue there is no direct connection, but for some reasons I would like to keep to myself, because they are religious, I don't want this topic to be about that at any level, because that's another way for it to be derailed.

    Apart from wanting fullfillment without being dependent on a particular feeling, even if I didn't believe in any form of deity, this is just what feels right to me. I don't want to cheat on my future spouse with a million different people in pictures and videos or my thoughts. Even if i was engaged to someone I would want to not have sex until after we are married because I want it to be a life long and exclusive committment, one that is being thoughtful of each other on both sides.

    Not everyone cares about these things, or finds porn or sex outside of marriage cheating, but regardless, i want to marry someone who feels that way because that is important to me, and I want to give them that same respect by quitting this habit before I get married, or even before I find my first date if I am to be that lucky.
     
  10. EvanSki

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    I wont lie, im guilty of this habit too
    But i feel like its natural to explore your instincts wither youre a male or female, its just a natural part of life to have thoughts of coitus.

    My tips on quiting the habit is to just stop cold turkey.
    And when you get thoughts dont worry, just dont act on them.

    If you really want you could block pornographic sites on your web browsers

    I wish you all the best in overcoming this

    Talking from personal experiences
    most of best friends are females and 3 out of 4 of them (im an introvert i dont need 90 best friends) they dont like sexual stuff and pornography, although through out the years as our relationships grew I sort of corrupted two of them with it and we shared experiences, but it really damaged our friendship, while 3 of the 4 still dont like sexual stuff, one doesnt mind it, but in my own time, and after reading this topic I feel like its time I started trying to quit or at the least stop relying on it as much, ive found that my mind cant produce any stimulating thing after being hooked for so long, ive also started getting bored of it.
     
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  11. Samuel Venable

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    Yeah i think the first step is when I get the thought of the feeling that I should drop the attitude that says "I don't care about anything anymore I just want to do it" and replace it with thought in excess of other stuff I like doing, until the temptation goes away.

    @EvanSki yeah I relate to the getting bored of it. For me that usually ends up with me getting grossed out by certain things more over time, and being much more picky, resulting in me doing much more extensive searching, wasting much more time on it. I'm sure we've all been there, those of us who do it. Also I'm glad you want to be less dependent on it, that encourages me more to feel that way myself. Most of the stuff i find makes me nauseous nowadays so its a real pain finding something I like. It's not worth it to me in the long run.
     
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  12. Siolfor the Jackal

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    I don't understand the idea of quitting some things completely.
    All things are fine in moderation.
    Anybody I know that tries to quit something completely instead of just reducing their usage ends up being the most miserable version of themselves.
    I feel like what's most important is finding what is a healthy balance for you, and practicing self-discipline. Once you find that balance, sometimes you do indeed realise you can live without that thing no problem and you may be better off without it, but that's pretty rare in my experience.
    The other thing too is that, completely quitting some things can make the temptation even greater which can lead to really unhealthy binges. I've had friends and family attempt to give up alcohol for example, they were drinking too much so they quit. Then they just have one bad day, bad enough to decide they need at least one little drink. Suddenly they are blackout drunk, having their stomach pumped on the way to the hospital...

    Anyway, this really drove home the idea of moderation for me, these things make me happy as long as I don't get carried away. My diet is probably the most out of control, since I love meat and hate anything green. I try and make healthy choices where I can and reduce the amount of red meat I eat, but I would never completely stop. Same with sugar, it's bad for me if I have too much, but I love it. Instead of completely removing it from my diet I just replace some potential soft drink I was going to have with water. I have tried artificial sweeteners but they give me many other problems and taste awful.
    Other things like sex, masturbation, and drugs, I do often to relax(drugs waaaay less) because they can help or enhance other things. I usually don't need help to relax since I'm a pretty chill guy as it is, but sometimes a little masturbation can help my creativity or help me go to sleep after a long difficult day. Countless times where I've been stuck writing a song or something for hours or days or so, only to take a short break, have a quick fap, then suddenly it feels like this cloud over my mind is lifted and I'm able to progress.
    That said, you still need to exercise some self-discipline otherwise it becomes a crutch. I've met far too many other musicians who feel like they can only write whilst on drugs for instance, and that has large negative impacts on their lives. It's expensive first of all, not to mention that they build up a tolerance which means they need more and more to get the same results. Whereas the rare, rare time I still imbibe, all it takes is one or two small joints/cones and I am well on my way to Super Chill Zone: Act One.

    ...I only meant to write a short two sentence paragraph ^^'
    Whoops.

    Hopefully my perpective helps in some way too. No judgements either way. My philosophy is to live free and do what makes you happy, and I know I'm happiest when I'm not forcing things completely out of my life.
     
  13. Samuel Venable

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    It's rather nice that I've matured to the point I can disagree with some people on here without losing my mind or sleep over it. I don't sleep enough but that's for unrelated reasons fortunately.

    @Siolfor the Jackal I agree that less of it is definitely better than more of it. If anyone finds it is natural or makes them happy I won't stop them from doing it. I just know personally with me it makes my life worse, not better. Its being addicted to it that makes me feel the opposite for about 30minutes, but not completely, it's those last 2 and a half seconds at most that I hope for in that time period that confuses me into thinking its worth it, but pretty much 100% of the rest the time I see all the ways it negatively effects me. And yes, your opinion matters and adds to the conversation as much as anyone's. :)

    It also makes me view women as sexual objects which I severely hate.
     
  14. MissingNo.

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    I disagree, there are many things that shouldn't be done ever. Rape and hard drugs for example. Obviously you can't do drugs in moderation, once your hooked you will just want more and more.
    You can't do them in moderation, you have to use no amount at all if you want to function correctly. And obviously no serious person would ever say rape is good in moderation.

    I have to disagree again, most professionals that deal with alcoholics will tell you that trying to "drink in moderation" will most likely result in them getting drunk all over again.
    I have examples in my own family, my uncle which has been a raging alcoholic since he was a teen cannot just have "one drink" if he does he will just end up blackout drunk.
    He has tried drinking in moderation and it always has failed. At some point in his 30's he decided to quite cold turkey from drinking. And he successfully stayed off for 15 years!
    He was living happily with a great job. And then one night at a party he decided he had been clean long enough that he could "just have one drink" And well that night he ended
    up getting drunk and went back to his old ways of beating his wife and children and trashing the place. Point is I think some people have to accept they have a problem and
    accept they can never be like everyone else. Yeah it doesn't sound fun but I think that is just the harsh truth when it comes to certain addictions, people just want to have their
    cake and eat it too.

    Do note though I'm not saying drinking in general is bad but I think for people who struggle with alcoholism it's better to never drink again.

    That said I'm not against masturbation, It's a pretty healthy activity. But if someone thinks they might be happier without it then more power to them.
    Personally I would seek medical advice. I don't think masturbation addiction is something you need to quit cold turkey but then again I'm no medical expert.
     
  15. Samuel Venable

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    I've heard doctors say otherwise, especially in the case of porn, and that it can even cause mental conditions.

    Wanting to have sex when you are in no position to, is trying to fill a void that you aren't able to fill. I'm just going by what people tell me. This is part of why I'm seeking to quit it, but I do agree with you on your views concerning alchohol 100%, and in the case of rape I can't think of anyone who doesn't agree with that one, even most people who do it are aware its a terrible thing they just more or less don't care when they choose to rape someone.

    It's a slippery slope, and I believe most rapes are a result of someone who is severely addicted to porn and/or masterbation and are tired of not having a second body to be involved, and can't wait any longer. Which is more reason for me to not do this stuff.

    I have proof to back this up, and you posted in the thread of someone who is that proof, I am ashamed to say. My first year in public high school i was in the mindset that all the students were having sex together daily. I asked a girl who I knew had a boyfriend to have sex, and I got in serious trouble for sexual harassment.

    This never would have happened if I never got exposed to these things, whether porn or any solo sexual act. This is where it all goes if you aren't careful.

    I didn't do anything other than ask privately so she didn't feel the need to get the law involved but she easily could. I am terrified to ever make a decision like that ever again, knowing how low I stooped to do that.

    I was tired of doing it by myself and having to deal with a girl's rejection. So my mind went first thing to having sex, without even dating, and worst of all she was already in a relationship. To this day I'm glad I never got her permission for sex, because I don't need that kind of guilt carrying over into my future marriage, if that day will ever come to be.

    Not everyone will do what I did but the nature of porn and masterbation is wanting sex without needing conscent of any kind, which is the corner stone of rape and molestation. One could argue rape is only natural, animals do it! I saw on planet earth the other day a male desert chameleon was on a search for a female mate. In desperation for reproduction, it didn't want to "waste time" being rejected by the female, so the two of them literally fought each other biting and clawing until the female was eventually mounted and raped. Rape is perfectly natural for animals, we on the other hand, have no excuse.

    Please don't take offense, I'm not equating the two, (masterbation and rape), I'm just saying they are similar in that one tiny aspect of it, one is obviously much more of a terrible decision, I am just saying one could lead to the other if not, as previous users said, done in moderation, or not at all. All that happened when I was 16. I'm 24 now and while the one of the girl's friends, who happens to be my older sister, has forgotten, I know I haven't, and I am still just as disgusted with myself as ever for doing it. (Actually it was with 3 girls I asked that question that year, only 1 of them was even offended, where as two of them were in a relationship, yikes!). When i was 16 that was the most dirty year of my life, if i could erase that year from my life and do it over for the better, I would.

    I wasn't expecting to make this confession, but knowing while it may damage severely my reputation and potentially job opportinuties as anyone can find me in this topic on google now, its worth it knowing it could benefit a listening ear who could learn from it.
     
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    It's difficult, I would imagine. I don't watch porn, but I could easily see how addictive it could be. It would be easy for me to say "just don't act on it" or "just don't click", but I'm sure that is nigh-on impossible. My advice would be "If your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off." Block sites when you see them. Do whatever it takes to make it literally impossible to see porn. (Easy to say that, too. Porn is everywhere. Lol.) You may not have just "kicked" the habit, but the desire will wear off after long periods without it (as @BattleRifle BR55 pointed out.) Plus, the less you look for something, the less of it the internet will show you. Waiting for marriage will definitely be worth it. Shame yourself too. For instance, set up a number in the op, and add to it whenever you willingly see porn. Making it public will help, and we won't judge you.
     
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    I get what you are saying, but I don't know that it is as clear cut as that.

    If we watch Oceans 11, will we go and rob a casino?
    If we play Doom 2, will we hack up people with chainsaws?
    If we watch porn, will we rape people?

    If the answer to any of these is yes, then it is time to seek some expert advice, as there may be deeper issues going on.

    We are exposed to negatives every day. It is how we handle the psychological side of the negatives, is how we decide what we do to others in real life.
     
  18. Samuel Venable

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    I agree in that it is quite a leap for all of those examples you gave, but the difference with one of them is you are giving in to chemicals in the brain to produce a sexual feeling you will want more of and can't ever get enough of. Where as with the others its not quite the same in how invoved you are in the "lesser intense" acts in those comparisons.

    Adopting the idea that you are limited to one person, and have no experience with anyone else other than perhaps one who deceased, its much easier to be thankful for what you have as it is available i'd imagine. Because i mean, you wouldn't really know any different. If someone died its not like you'll be able to sleep with them again if you wanted to.
     
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  19. The Sorcerer

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    Depends on the person I guess. All of the above release dopamine and endorphins in to the brain.

    There are days where I'd take an awesome movie over sex or vice versa, play a decent game, or whatever. Even coding. If my mind is really dialed in to an a project I am creating, it will trump everything.


    I can't agree with or relate to that one. Not implying or judging anything, but "can't ever get enough of" does sound like a bit pre-cursor quality of a rapist. Again don't take this the wrong way, it is a friendly discussion after all and everyone is different.


    Not sure what you are meaning by this.
     
  20. MissingNo.

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    That is really interesting I would like to look into this more. I'm religious as well and though I don't think it's condemned,
    I do think it can be taken too far. But in any case I support your decision 100 percent.

    Don't worry your good, I get what you are saying. Basically it seems your saying it's a slippery slope and can breed worse things if left unchecked.

    Honestly I can't disagree. Humans need social interaction and years of being obsessed with sex feeling rejected by the opposite sex or just not feeling worthy could possibly breed anger and hatred.
    Obviously this won't happen to everyone but like you said it's a slippery slope.
     
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    @MissingNo. Uhh, Obviously "all things" should have a little disclaimer about common sense. I didn't think I'd need to clarify it, but obviously I wouldn't include rape or anything similarly 100% wrong in the category of all things... It should go without saying.
     
  22. Samuel Venable

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    Another way to put the exact same words, it doesn't satisfy. The more you indulge in hudreds of bodies online, the more you will want it, and the deeper a hole you get yourself in, if you let it, I mean. Seeing as I've been addicted since I was 12. I've seen a lot of bodies. Not good for me, but it's fine that people feel differently about it.
     
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    I felt the need to address it because where is the line drawn? Some would say hard drugs would be fine in moderation. I mean it's not even like the majority of things are good in moderation.
    There are many many things that should never be done. What is common sense for you and me may not be for others.

    The saying "All things are fine in moderation" is a pet peeve of mine, it's way too general and I know lot's of people who truly believe that.

    Edit: I apologize if I seem like am being too rigid, just a pet peeve of mine.
     
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  24. Samuel Venable

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    I'm glad to see this topic is getting a lot of love. But in general try not to be too annoyed by each others views. I don't think its gotten there but I'm just saying this now while the replies seem to be getting more rapid. Fortunately, MissingNo had nothing to worry about it seems. :)

    Although this topic isnt really about drugs or general addiction so let's stay on topic.
     
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  25. MissingNo.

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    Apologies for that. Anyways It can be good to evaluate yourself and see if you think it's affecting you for the worse. Self evaluation can be good but it can be also be a double edged sword.
    Some people self evaluate themselves to doom. Best thing to do would be to do some self evaluation while also getting a professionals opinion if possible.
    Also you told me you only know what you have been told, so it may be good for you to go online to some sources you trust and read with your own eyes.
    That way hopefully you become more informed.

    Reason I say that is because sometimes information that get's passed down to you through other people can accidentally come out wrong.
     
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  26. Samuel Venable

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    You're fine, I wasn't picking on you in specific, it's just a friendly reminder.

    I can look more into it, but whether it is considered healthy to doctors or scientists or whoever, it doesn't mean it will necessarily be something I can't still live without. I've seen many people online say it's healthy, in fact most people seem to, but I don't find anything that is accepted by a particular majority to be what is factual or moral in every solid case. The weird thing about humanity, especially with access to google here and today, is that we all have different ideas about how life is, what's good and bad, what should and shouldn't be done, what is and isn't healthy, and sometimes, we need to conclude our opinions based on what makes sense from our own life experiences, rather than going off of what everyone/anyone tells you. I believed what I was told, but only because my life experiences as well as many others I know are all in alignment with that idea, at least, from what I can get out of it all.

    Everyone has different life experiences, everyone is told different things. We're basically agreeing here in that everyone should think for themselves and not be swayed be what people say when we believe we know better, and this goes for everyone. Being open-minded is good, but when being open-minded to something that we have enough evidence to believe is false, is that idea worth investing in? It could, for the sake of relating to others, and it could for the sake of being proven wrong and discovering that.

    Life is a complex thing, and sometimes we should all should just sit back and drink some water and eat something we're not allergic to, when we are hungry and thirsty, something to eat that is healthy and tastes good. Can anyone argue with that last statement? I DARE YOU.

    Now I think i need take my own advice and get back on topic. My bad, that was kinda weird.
     
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  27. Siolfor the Jackal

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    Misinformation can be a big problem, yeah. It's good to do research like MissingNo says.
    I uhh thought it was basically a fact that it's healthy(in moderation :p), and potentially lowers the risk of prostate cancer.

    Ooh, I'm an extremely picky eater, good luck finding a food that I find tasty and healthy :p
     
  28. Samuel Venable

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    I didn't say it had to exist. Where's your imagination? lel

    @The Sorcerer in regards to:

    I meant if you don't have a million fetishes or body preferences it's probably because the only body you seen is the one you are married to or otherwise the one you are pretty darn committed to.
     
  29. The Sorcerer

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    There is a direct correlation though (maybe your thoughts are clouded or too focused to realise this). What you have is an addiction. The brain fires the same chemicals no matter what the addiction, be it gambling, drugs, spending money.


    Don't get me wrong, I have many many body preferences. But, I wouldn't resort to rape to fix an urge.
     
  30. Samuel Venable

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    I never said it wasn't an addiction. This topic is about a specific genre of addiction. Believe me, I'm last person on earth to be in denial of such a thing.

    In regard to the other thing you said, I've already addressed that, so there's not much else left to be said. To reiterate I'm far from justified for what I did, and anyone who does similar or worse it is rooted from a feeling they wanted more of but could get. So they acted upon it. Does everyone do that? As previously stated, no.
     
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  31. The Sorcerer

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    Fair enough.

    It is probably one of those things that you need to make a conscious decision with and do your best to abstain. And don't beat the crap out of yourself if you fall of the wagon. Maybe set targets, one day, three days, a week, and so on. It is really about retraining your neural paths.
     
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    Yeah I always thought that too, in all the articles I read it seemed like there was no shortage of health benefits, but it's been some years since I looked into it.

    Yeah huge problem for me as well, I like to reward myself with something fatty and greasy when I get through something I loathe. It helps keep my moral up.

    Yeah I mean at the end of the day it's not a big deal if you leave it or not. I mean I would be more concerned if you decided you needed to leave your life long passion of developing games or whatever
    because you thought it was bad for you. But you are not giving up a huge portion of who you are. I support you 100 percent.
     
  33. Samuel Venable

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    Agreed. :)
    Yeah... I certainly hope I never have to ditch gamemaking/programming. That would truly suck. But I'm sure it will always be a hobby if I don't make bank.
     
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  34. The Sorcerer

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    Take it from someone who gets seriously addicted to things at the drop of a hat (not talking drugs, etc...), you can do it! :)

    My addictions are whatever my mind target locks itself on to and it often seriously eats in to other commitments (you know, trivial things like 'turning up to work' etc). I'll get that insane rush of endorphins during the day and hit 2:00pm and go in to utter depression. Then the next day comes, and we rinse and repeat.

    Breaking these addictions / mindsets is hard. (Says the guy on a workday 11:30am answering posts on some forum :D). Partially the reason I disappear months at a time and turn up again like a bad smell.
     
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    For others,it's a hobby.
     
  36. Samuel Venable

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    Going on day #3 wish me luck guys~~~!!!!!!
     
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