@Nocturne , I read most of your sources and I agree with them. However, they are all about transgender identity, which I am all for. What I despise are people who want to feel special, so they jump onto the band wagon, blasting things out of proportion with all these random genders people make up. I believe people should be able to identify however they feel most comfortable, be it mainly male with a touch of female; 50% male/female; or both, but they would still fall within whichever team they chose: Male/Female.
The problem I have is these bandwaggoners is not the fact that they identify as genders outside a binary, but that these genders harm the outside view of transgender identities. This is the reason
some people think trans women want to attack women in bathrooms, because there are plenty of fetishists or predators who enforce this idea. The reason
some people think transgender people are delusional is due to people hopping onto the fad to look interesting by saying they are omni-queer and then scream at people who "misgender" them. This is somewhat like people who
pretend to be gay because they believe it makes them more interesting. Wouldn't you be angry if you were gay, and someone who was pretending to be gay was enforcing a misguided image of homosexuals?
Surely you should simply ASK them how they want to be identified and be done with it?
Yes, I should. And IF the give an answer such as "can you use she instead of he" I am 1000% for that and I will comply. But the problem I have is that the adoption of
alternate made-up gender identities are contributing to the deformation of transgender people. Prime example of being Xe/Xi/Xei, or identifying as "polyqueer horse-kin" utterly diminishes and ridicules people who identify as something
sane.
if they say they want to be defined as genderfluid-brony-3rd-dan-of-the-glorious-fish then why not? Who does it hurt?
Because lines need to be drawn between the conceivable and the implausible. It is possible to have an identity that is linked to our social and cultural actions, for example: identifying as male, female, and anywhere between. However, it is impossible to identify as a planet-kin-onmi-girl because it has no context and is not linked to anything within our culture. Now, if that "gender" was a label given to a specific part of a gender spectrum, then it would have context. On it's own it is nothing.
What does it matter to you or anyone how someone else wants to be identified?
It doesn't matter to me so long as the person is being sincere and not making things up to get attention, or to feel like they're special.
I mean, I think the name "Nux" sucks
I do too; I wish i used my old username or something more creative.
so apart from now I'm going to refer to you as Susan! That okay with you Susan? In fact, as forum Admin, I think I'll change your username to Susan too here on the forums so we can ALL call you Susan.
Susan isn't a bad name, but it would be nice if you didn't abuse your power to attempt to humiliate me personally.
You won't have a problem with that since you don't have a problem with telling other people how they should be identified, right, Susan?
Oh, boy, you have no idea! I get told how to I should identify by society every day that I've become nerveless to it.
@Quailfail I really am sorry; I don't know why I was so rash, and I regret it now.
I understand the whole tribal gender culture. And I always believe those are just unique to those tribes. What I mean is, they contribute to their society. But like I had said previously, people in western society blow this way out of proportion and start claiming genders left right and center with no real meaning. Whereas those tribes probably developed their society upon the building blocks of those extra genders, giving them meaning.
If you wish me to stop speaking, that is fine. I don't want to step on anyone's feet.
No no, please don't stop speaking your mind for whatever reason! ;; Nobody should ever be told to be quiet in a discussion.
EDIT: I'm scared people will hold grudges on me now. I just want to say I still think nocturne is a pretty rad dude.