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Ianuarius
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First off, we did some bug tracking on this issue with the friendly people of YoYo Games. The issue is not resolved, but we have an idea of what might be causing it.
I wanted to write this post in case someone else has the same issue and is wondering what might be causing it. I've seen a few people complaining about the same thing and the "best solution" seems to be: revert to the older version of Windows, which is hardly a solution at all.
Symptoms
System
I'm using Windows 10 Home on a 3570K with 8GB of DDR3 and a GTX970. I'm fairly sure that the issue has nothing to do with hardware or the OS version since I've heard people having the same issue with Windows 7 and GM:S runs just fine on my girlfriend's laptop, which also has Windows 10.
Possible cause
We narrowed the issue down to this:
The YoYo Games people thought that I might've installed a program that added the group policy. What the program could be? Who knows.
Possible solutions
Some Windows systems ship with gpedit that allows the user to change group policies. Win 10 Home isn't one of them. What gpedit apparently does is allow the manipulation of some registry entries. So, regedit should be able to do the same thing. But what entries should I change? I have no idea.
Some people have suggested that I can just download gpedit and use it on Win 10 Home, but then others have said that using it on a system that didn't ship with it is a disaster waiting to happen. I trust myself not to do anything stupid, but I'm not so optimistic about the people at Microsoft.
So, what's the solution? Haven't found one, yet. The YoYo Games people just basically said to me: tell us if you figure it out.
Additional thoughts
I bought the GM:S HumbleBundle. So, technically I'm a paying customer. Sure, I got the professional version of GM:S and a lot of (in my opinion overpriced) modules super cheap, but I DID spend my money on the product that on all accounts had some really good reviews behind it. I would at least assume that I can open up the program that retails at around $150. Again, I'm not the only one that's had this problem. And if you've worked on a project for two years, then decide to switch OS, you might not be able to do anything anymore.
Why GM:S uses .NET 3.5 that's some Vista era technology from almost 10 years ago is anyone's guess. Maybe the recent HumbleBundle is a sign of GM:S 2 finally coming out. Will it be an actually working product or just additional functionality slapped on top of this dinosaur? I guess time will tell. I would like to be optimistic.
I wanted to write this post in case someone else has the same issue and is wondering what might be causing it. I've seen a few people complaining about the same thing and the "best solution" seems to be: revert to the older version of Windows, which is hardly a solution at all.
Symptoms
- GameMaker: Studio installs just fine.
- Executing the software for the first time downloads the proper updates.
- Then nothing. No GM:S, no error messages, and even the Updater at the background shuts down after a while.
- Running the program again just flashes the updater on the screen for a millisecond and after that nothing.
System
I'm using Windows 10 Home on a 3570K with 8GB of DDR3 and a GTX970. I'm fairly sure that the issue has nothing to do with hardware or the OS version since I've heard people having the same issue with Windows 7 and GM:S runs just fine on my girlfriend's laptop, which also has Windows 10.
Possible cause
We narrowed the issue down to this:
- There's a group policy on Windows that prevents the execution of .NET 3.5 applications.
- I did a clean install of Windows 10 when it came out.
- I AM the administrator on the machine.
- There's no one else using the system.
- The system is not in a network with anyone else.
- I haven't set any additional group policies, ever.
The YoYo Games people thought that I might've installed a program that added the group policy. What the program could be? Who knows.
Possible solutions
Some Windows systems ship with gpedit that allows the user to change group policies. Win 10 Home isn't one of them. What gpedit apparently does is allow the manipulation of some registry entries. So, regedit should be able to do the same thing. But what entries should I change? I have no idea.
Some people have suggested that I can just download gpedit and use it on Win 10 Home, but then others have said that using it on a system that didn't ship with it is a disaster waiting to happen. I trust myself not to do anything stupid, but I'm not so optimistic about the people at Microsoft.
So, what's the solution? Haven't found one, yet. The YoYo Games people just basically said to me: tell us if you figure it out.
Additional thoughts
I bought the GM:S HumbleBundle. So, technically I'm a paying customer. Sure, I got the professional version of GM:S and a lot of (in my opinion overpriced) modules super cheap, but I DID spend my money on the product that on all accounts had some really good reviews behind it. I would at least assume that I can open up the program that retails at around $150. Again, I'm not the only one that's had this problem. And if you've worked on a project for two years, then decide to switch OS, you might not be able to do anything anymore.
Why GM:S uses .NET 3.5 that's some Vista era technology from almost 10 years ago is anyone's guess. Maybe the recent HumbleBundle is a sign of GM:S 2 finally coming out. Will it be an actually working product or just additional functionality slapped on top of this dinosaur? I guess time will tell. I would like to be optimistic.
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