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GVmG

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edit: another point for the words NOT being in the theme is that the prior clue MOO MOO seemed to indicate and was sort of confirmed that there were four Os (5 actually but that was a mistake?) and possibly two Ms? I'm not really following the stuff on Discord though so I might have got that wrong, so the clue names seem to be important beyond the clue itself as well.
There are 5 O's and 2 M's, although the "moo moo" thing was a coincidence, and that title was just to go with the puzzle that, when solved, turned into "old macdonald had a farm".

But yeah I think it's telling us that those things aren't in the themes, especially because some of the previous guesses are explicitly included there.

EDIT: now though, what could the three letter word be? It can't be "THE" or "AND", but it also cannot be "BUT" because B and U are not in the theme (that is, if the guesses I gaveare correct - which at least for U and B seem to be the correct ones).

EDIT2: "No U" is actually pretty big if correct, that leaves us with A E I O. It also fits with the MOO MOO puzzle in the sense that that puzzle solved to "E I E I O" (no U).
 

Toque

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Amateur pixel artist looking to join team for jam. Expert in wit and satire.
Published many games. Newer to Game Maker.

Sounds like a lot of fun. PM if interested. Im serious about game design and pixel art but nothing else.......


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I have chosen to work with the dark side. Better uniforms and dental benefits.

May the force slow the rebels down like a foot of snow.
 
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NAL

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GMC Elder
The puzzle was indeed reductive, as its title suggested.

Speaking of titles suggesting things...

 

Yal

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GMC Elder
I think I got the idea here:
  • -- means "remove a letter"
  • ++ means "add a letter"
  • || means "change a letter"
  • == means "synonyms"
  • != means "opposites"
  • each derived word must satisfy the operation of every arrow pointing to it

Applying the rules yields...
  • fade ¤ built = made
  • tea ¤ squad = team
  • scone ¤ pyramid = cone
  • sand ¤ sombre = sad
  • fear ¤ dream = dread
  • made ¤ sad = mad
  • lion ¤ in = ion
  • blur ¤ yellow = blue
  • team ¤ blue = teal...? (not quite sure what color teal actually is, I just know it's a color)
  • cone ¤ ion = con
  • teal ¤ con = tell...? (assuming "con" in the "con man" sense, e.g. don't tell someone the truth)
  • heels ¤ leader = head (the < operation feels a bit weird so this is just a guess)
  • dread ¤ head = read
But READ and TELL doesn't have two letters in common so one of them are wrong...

So letters 15-17 = SAD, 39-41 = ION
 
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(with @Alice 's help on the Discord)

"OR CHANGE ONE" means you change one letter in the word when an || OR is present. Everything else is fairly straight forward (add or remove a letter, pick something with the same or opposite meaning). The only confusing one is < which we interpreted as "pick something that appears before in the alphabet". It only appears once anyway and we can find the word by going backwards.

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I'm guessing this implies S and D, I and N, and M and L in those positions.

EDIT: wowie @Yal almost ninja'd us
 
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GVmG

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We aren't exactly sure the puzzle gave us the full words instead of just the letters, but given the time to the jam it might be full words.

Theme guess time!

First:
------ME AL- ---S
Middle word is probably ALL
First might be OVERCOME

Second:
AD-----IO-
ADAPTATION

Third:
--E----- -----ION-
???? CREATIONS

Will edit as I get ideas, for a bit
 
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Alice

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The hash of a sentence containing all themes, as a proof that I got figured these out first: 9DE13B93EF1139601D81F205F6246D72B4CE33CC3B709945BB3551E47301E18C ;)
As computed by https://passwordsgenerator.net/sha256-hash-generator/

I will let the others find them out on their own and only post the sentence once they're confirmed. Would be kinda silly if all themes were revealed ~5 days before the Jam proper. ^^'
 
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GVmG

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Same, although no matter how I try I can't get the same hash lol

Anyway I have two or three guesses, one less probable than the others. We'll see when the jam hits.
 

matharoo

manualman
GameMaker Dev.
Been a long time since I took part in a GMC Jam... Let's see if the theme gives me a good idea and maybe then I'll make a game
 

The M

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Alright, I'd like to offer a copy of my jam game turned actual project, Coincide, to the top 5. The game's not done yet though, so it might take a while before you can claim it. ;)
 

matharoo

manualman
GameMaker Dev.
I really like that you can choose from 3 themes. I quit the last three GMC jams just because I didn't like the theme.

Hope I don't quit this time...
 

FrostyCat

Redemption Seeker
I really like that you can choose from 3 themes. I quit the last three GMC jams just because I didn't like the theme.
I don't really get what you mean by this. The last Jam was the first to have three themes for you to choose from, not this one. So if you quit the last one because you didn't like the theme, you'd have to dislike all three, and that could very well happen again.
 

matharoo

manualman
GameMaker Dev.
I don't really get what you mean by this. The last Jam was the first to have three themes for you to choose from, not this one. So if you quit the last one because you didn't like the theme, you'd have to dislike all three, and that could very well happen again.
Sorry, when I said that I "quit the last three GMC jams", that didn't include the actual last one; I was just talking the about last three GMC jams that I joined. I took no part in the last one because I had too much work.
 
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Ruhar

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I'll code a website for 1st place. If they don't want one, they can pass it down to 2nd place and so on. The request has to be within reason though; I'm not making Facebook or anything. I'm also not going to buy the domain or host, though I can help the winner set all that up if they need help.
 
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nlolotte

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I'll code a website for 1st place. If they don't want one, they can pass it down to 2nd place and so on. The request has to be within reason though; I'm not making Facebook or anything. I'm also not going to buy the domain or host, though I can help the winner set all that up if they need help.
That’s an awesome prize!
 
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TinyGamesLab

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I'm ready for the jam!!! Hopefully I'll get the game mechanic done during the weekend and then I can do the art and polishing during the weekdays before work.
I have a YouTube tutorial on the making (needs some recording and all the editing but it'll have to wait the end of the jam now!!!
I'm also hyped!
 
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Ruhar

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Ross from YoYo Games has kindly offered temporary GameMaker: Studio 2 Desktop licenses for the duration of GMC Jam 31!

Grab it here!
It looks like it's good from the 16th to the 21st. Since the jam ends on the 26th, I feel like the dates should be altered if at all possible, maybe from the 21st to the 26th. Even just from the 25th to the 26th would be better imo. I'm super grateful for the free temporary license regardless though.
 

NAL

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It looks like it's good from the 16th to the 21st. Since the jam ends on the 26th, I feel like the dates should be altered if at all possible, maybe from the 21st to the 26th. Even just from the 25th to the 26th would be better imo. I'm super grateful for the free temporary license regardless though.
They now extend to the 29th!
 

matharoo

manualman
GameMaker Dev.
AND THE THEME IS
why am I so nervous

Edit: WHERE'S THE THEME DAMMIT

Edidit: DO NOT WASTE MY PRECIOUS SECONDS

Edididit: BOI
 

Alice

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OVERCOME ALL ODDS
ADAPTATION
CHEMICAL REACTIONS

Don't remember the exact phrasing of the earlier hashed sentence now and I have it elsewhere, but that's what the themes are supposed to be, as far as I can tell.
(I will provide the sentence once I get back to my main machine)

--- EDIT ---
Nevermind, the sentence was:
Code:
The GMC Jam themes are: OVERCOME ALL ODDS, ADAPTATION, CHEMICAL REACTIONS
 
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GVmG

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Ah so we had the same guesses but the hash wasn't the same because of commas (and the beginning part).

Hopefully these are the right themes, I already did some minor brainstorming. NAL pls we're waiting

EDIT: WOOHOO we did it
 

NAL

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THE JAM HAS BEGUN!
and I was late because I was away from my PC, I'm so sorry
but I'll give the extra as leeway on the end
Thank you Alice for sharing the themes in a timelier manner
 
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Misu

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Me and my teammate planned out an idea. Mostly its a risky idea but let us see how this goes!
 
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GVmG

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I had an idea, but it is far too complex for 10 days. I've been trying to brainstorm something else for the past few hours but to no avail. I'll try taking a lil mental break with some YouTube or anime or whatever else.

If in a few hours I don't have something in mind I'll just go for the good old "just program, something will come up eventually" method. Themes are optional anyway, but I still want to at least shoehorn one in.
 
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GVmG

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For the record, that teammate is me (I'm doing game physics real hard atm btw) and we have the best idea ever :D
(the idea is courtesy of Misu, don't blame me for any of the game writing pls)
I'm interested.
 

matharoo

manualman
GameMaker Dev.
Looks great. I like the sword whirlwind and art.

How do you do GIFs like that? One of my goals for this Gam Jam is to figure out how to do gifs and right now the best I've done is links to it elsewhere.
I recorded and exported it with ScreenToGIF, then uploaded it to Gifyu for a link to post here.
 
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Oyakiiv

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I didn't see it in the main post, but the plan for my entry will involve casino related games (slots, blackjack and an easy to understand dice game I found), will this be a problem in any way?

each game will have a skill based twist, so it wont be pure gambling.

(with a them of overcome all odds, I couldn't resist!)
 

HayManMarc

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I didn't see it in the main post, but the plan for my entry will involve casino related games (slots, blackjack and an easy to understand dice game I found), will this be a problem in any way?

each game will have a skill based twist, so it wont be pure gambling.

(with a them of overcome all odds, I couldn't resist!)
Fine, as long as no real money is involved.
 
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Oyakiiv

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ok, I figured, but it never hurts to ask. a lot of countries REALLY don't like gambling. at least that's what I learned about 2-3 years ago when square enix talked about the hurdles they had to jump to add the Gold Saucer to FFXIV.
 
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